Posted on 10/06/2005 10:18:56 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
He is absolutly right. We don't have time for this Gloria Steinem utopia bs, especially when life is on the line.
just a question, are you a female?
If she is confirmed, we will be getting just another Sandra Day O'Connor.
I got as far as this steaming pile:
"Miers was one of 10 Dallas council members to unanimously approve a 1989 agenda item that revised minimum height, weight and vision requirements for Dallas firefighters to facilitate "promotion of certain ranks in the Fire Department," particularly women."
Total garbage.
Two identical fires break out in identical buildings, with identical victims trapped inside. A male firefighter goes into one building; a female goes into the other.
Will the fact that a female entered the second building somehow cause the fire there to burn more slowly? Will the people trapped in the second building somehow become lighter because a woman is carrying them?
If you can honestly answer "yes" to those questions, then affirmative action is appropriate (though I would appreciate your explanation of how the fire knows the sex of the person entering). If the answer to the questions is "no", however, I think it should be clear that affirmative action is stupid and dangerous.
Note that I would have no particular problem with a woman becoming a fire fighter if she is in the top 1% or so of women that actually have the strength required. Not sure how many of the women in that top 1% bracket would want the job, though.
If I see somebody say it, I certainly will.
You're hard to miss though; you seem to have taken on a special job at FR to personally refute every single favorable post about Miers.
I'm sure the original height and weight requirements were set up, not to discriminate against women, but because applicants of a certain size were necessary to carry someone out of a burning building, lift a ladder or haul a stretcher.
If a women can compete with men and achieve the same level of performance as a man, why shouldn't a women be able to have the same job? I am not suggesting that women have to do less in performance or have a lower performance qualification, only that height and weight requirements be adjusted.
Why do you want to know?
It's not the opportuntiy, it's the manipulation of outcomes.
Being a firefighter necessitates a certain degree of physical strength and therefore size. Women generally don't have what it takes. Women and men are different. Ever noticed that?
Feminism is crap.
Just curious. I'm guessing yes, based on your responses.
Of course, you could just call me a 'pig' for having that opinion, too.
Reaching out to spread democracy in China was a good thing, sans selling national secrets of course.
I like Miers' business instincts very much. Don't you?
You and your mouth are quite disgusting.
I'm betting you're one of those guys who have MAJOR issues with women.
Do you really believe the original weight and height requirements were set up to discriminate against women? Or do you think maybe the premise was that certain applicants of a certain size were more physically capable of doing the job?
Yes it is crap. I say RAISE the standards, not lower them!!!!
You have major issues with women, too?
That, in itself, lowers performance qualifications. Would this hypothetical "she" carry less gear into a building in an emergency, or would a victim suddenly weigh proportionately less if a female firefighter is charged with the rescue?
ah, and you're there to cheerlead and attack those who dare question here.
But I don't expect you to get it still.
You can support miers all you want. Just don't try to shout down those who question her nomination.
If you've been here the whole four days, and you're honest about it, you'll see what kind of kind of personal attacks and liberal tactics have been taking place against anyone who dares question the wisdom of this pick.
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