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MANIFESTO OF THE WPPFF/WILD TURKEYS/COALITION OF THE SANE
Me. | 29MARCH05 | Long Cut

Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut

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To: Zivasmate
it diminishes the evil the Nazis perpetrated and is an insult to the millions who perished because of them.

It's so beyond the pale, I believe it might be something with which the overwhelming majority of FR would agree. Many of us who spoke out against Terri Schiavo being dehydrated/starved are not easily offended, yet are horrified by the perceived legitimacy of Auschwitz graphics being posted on FR. You articulated that position very well on the linked thread.

4,601 posted on 04/04/2005 12:18:43 PM PDT by lonevoice (Vast Right Wing Pajama Party)
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To: lonevoice; All
it worries me for an entirely different reason.

After Rathergate, the MSM began watching FR in a big way, just HUNGRY for some means to discredit it and its posters. Look at what happened to NCPAC...he lost his job over a FReepmail post, fer corn's sake.

Now, whilst they watch, they see literally HUNDREDS of posts with Nazi imagery. It's not too far a leap for them to label us as Neo-Nazis all. After all, they won't be predisposed towards the interpretation the posters of such imagery want to project, and can simply spin it to mean that FReepers, and by extension conservatives, LIKE such images.

Just imagine the headlines.

4,602 posted on 04/04/2005 1:49:41 PM PDT by Long Cut (Threadbearer for the Fellowship of the Wild Turkeys)
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To: Long Cut
I read a statement on the main forum today that highlights the problem. In earlier times, I would have assumed it was farce. Now, I lean towards thinking it is serious:

"Alec Baldwin is a bigot. Anyone who refers to the 'Christian looney bin' ranks up there with Josef Goebbels."

4,603 posted on 04/04/2005 2:16:32 PM PDT by lugsoul (Wild Turkey)
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To: Servant of the 9; Jim Robinson
This time, it seems to me that the pro Terri people were allowed to say absolutely anything about anyone, even advocate armed insurection, with impunity, while the Pro Michael/Legal posters had to be very careful or be 'timed out'.

Not true. I am pro-Terri, and I was suspended for 4 days without cause. I was targeted for "Freepanasia" by the pro-death squad. They didn't succeed in getting me zotted because they couldn't goad me into breaking any rules. They did manage to keep me from posting just before and just after Terri died. Sometimes it just boils down to a game, and the best players win. Having a moderator on your side who's willing to abuse their power is a real advantage.

4,604 posted on 04/04/2005 2:28:32 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri Schindler - http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: unbalanced but fair
Would it then be okay for the President to use the same action against abortion clinics where innocents are killed every day? Isn't Roe vs Wade a bad law? Isn't it immoral?

Yes, absolutely! Abortion is murder. Murder is immoral.

4,605 posted on 04/04/2005 2:33:18 PM PDT by MrDem (Monthly Special: Will write OPUS's for Whiners and Crybabies for no charge.)
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To: cyncooper
Reagan would not have done what you say.

And you were just channeling with him and that's what he said?

4,606 posted on 04/04/2005 2:34:28 PM PDT by MrDem (Monthly Special: Will write OPUS's for Whiners and Crybabies for no charge.)
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To: verity
Absolutely compelling. I think you file an arrest warrant immediately.

So much for intelligent discussion...

4,607 posted on 04/04/2005 2:35:40 PM PDT by MrDem (Monthly Special: Will write OPUS's for Whiners and Crybabies for no charge.)
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To: MrDem

My channeling is superior to yours.

;)


4,608 posted on 04/04/2005 2:37:12 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: daylate-dollarshort

Very well written, detailed response. You are a credit to WPPFF. One of the few who Lives the Manifesto.


4,609 posted on 04/04/2005 2:37:56 PM PDT by MrDem (Monthly Special: Will write OPUS's for Whiners and Crybabies for no charge.)
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To: Long Cut
Now, whilst they watch, they see literally HUNDREDS of posts with Nazi imagery. It's not too far a leap for them to label us as Neo-Nazis all.

Someone also posted autopsy photos of the woman who was starved to death by the Scientologists. I doubt her family appreciated that little invasion of privacy and lack of common decency.

Between that and all the "Greer as Mussolini" photos, it's not surprising anyone would consider this a strange website (I'm being generous). All this outrageous, offensive, hyperbolic, unchristian, meanspirited hysteria and namecalling didn't save Terri Schiavo's life, but it may have destroyed FR.

4,610 posted on 04/04/2005 2:39:29 PM PDT by mountaineer
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To: BykrBayb
I was suspended for 4 days without cause.

I suspect your unrelenting personal attacks were the cause.

4,611 posted on 04/04/2005 2:39:56 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper

Ain't victimhood grand?


4,612 posted on 04/04/2005 2:41:45 PM PDT by mountaineer
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To: cyncooper

Then point to one of my personal attacks. I was attacked on a personal level. I didn't realize being the victim of personal attacks was cause for suspension. Several of your buddies insulted our troops, and when I objected I was called an "ignorant POS." So don't tell me that I'm guilty of launching personal attacks unless you can provide a link.


4,613 posted on 04/04/2005 2:43:55 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri Schindler - http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: mountaineer

Indeed. So attractive, too.

BTW, your observations are spot on. I had heard through the grapevine you had been given a timout...I was stunned.

What a sad state of affairs this site has arrived at.


4,614 posted on 04/04/2005 2:44:18 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper

Yes, I was suspended without warning, but found it more amusing than insulting.


4,615 posted on 04/04/2005 2:48:38 PM PDT by mountaineer
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To: BykrBayb
Then point to one of my personal attacks.

How about nine posts ago, when you referred to a "pro-death squad" here on FR? That's not a personal attack on a set of posters?

4,616 posted on 04/04/2005 2:52:37 PM PDT by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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To: general_re

A personal attack against an unidentified anonymous squad of people who support death? Could you be a little more specific?


4,617 posted on 04/04/2005 2:57:57 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri Schindler - http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: BykrBayb; Jim Robinson
Having a moderator on your side who's willing to abuse their power is a real advantage.

You're not the only one who noticed. The WPPFF member, who is also a moderator, abused the priviledge, in the opinion of many.

4,618 posted on 04/04/2005 2:58:37 PM PDT by MrDem (Monthly Special: Will write OPUS's for Whiners and Crybabies for no charge.)
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To: BykrBayb
How about this post? Or this post? Or this post How about this one? This one? Any of those personal attacks?
4,619 posted on 04/04/2005 2:58:55 PM PDT by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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To: MrDem

And who would that be? Don't be shy - name names.


4,620 posted on 04/04/2005 2:59:30 PM PDT by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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