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MANIFESTO OF THE WPPFF/WILD TURKEYS/COALITION OF THE SANE
Me. | 29MARCH05 | Long Cut

Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut

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To: EllaMinnow
Hey, you're the one who thinks a convicted rapist got framed by a 15 year old lying temptress and plea-bargained down to 2 years for no reason at all, aren't you?

No, I'm the one who pointed out that all of the hand wringers who were just besides themselves, because 'people' were making all kinds of unfounded accusations, with out any real facts, WERE DOING THE VERY SAME THING IN THAT THREAD!

2,041 posted on 03/30/2005 5:23:00 PM PST by AmericaUnited (Opponent of WPPFF (Wicked People Pulling Feeding Facilities))
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To: andysandmikesmom
At least twice a day, Mr. Schindler comes out and says,

"She's fighting like hell to live."

"She's alert and aware.

She wants to live."

Next presser,

"She is failing fast..."

"Her time is close."

It's all so redundant.

2,042 posted on 03/30/2005 5:23:02 PM PST by the Deejay ( I'LL RESPECT YOUR OPINION....IF YOU'LL RESPECT MINE.....)
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To: Mo1
I personally find Felos and his comments about this whole issue to be distrubing

I heard that clip of Felos saying how beautiful and peaceful the scene in Terri's room was. Why, there was music playing, Claire deLune, I believe, there were flowers, and Terri had a stuffed animal under her arm, in that oh-so-soothing voice of his. Oh, what a lovely image he painted. My skin was just crawling.

2,043 posted on 03/30/2005 5:23:18 PM PST by .38sw
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To: beyond the sea

"Terri's wedding and engagement rings so he could use them to make some jewelry for himself." It's not really that bizarre. Terri probably wasn't allowed to wear them at the rehabs and nursing homes, even if they still fit. They don't have any children to inherit the set.
I hear it was a ring for himself. I suppose he could have her buried in them but I don't know any one who would bury diamonds no matter how sentimental. Or he could have sold them to help pay expenses.


2,044 posted on 03/30/2005 5:23:55 PM PST by unbalanced but fair
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To: AmericaUnited

Conservative judge blasts Bush, Congress for role in Schiavo case
Knight Ridder ^ | 3/30/05 | Stephen Henderson

Posted on 03/30/2005 7:22:03 PM CST by Crackingham

The latest rejection of the Terri Schiavo case by a federal court was accompanied by a stinging rebuke of Congress and President Bush from a seemingly unlikely source: Judge Stanley F. Birch Jr., one of the most conservative jurists on the federal bench.

Birch authored opinions upholding Alabama's right to ban the sale of sex toys and Florida's ability to prohibit adoptions by gay couples. Both rulings drew the ire of liberal activists and the elation of traditional and social conservatives.

Yet, in Wednesday's 11th Circuit Court of Appeals decision to deny a rehearing to Schiavo's parents, Birch went out of his way to castigate Bush and congressional Republicans for acting "in a manner demonstrably at odds with our Founding Fathers' blueprint for governance of a free people - our Constitution."

Birch said he couldn't countenance Congress' attempt to "rob" federal courts of the discretion they're given in the Constitution. Noting that it had become popular among "some members of society, including some members of Congress," to denounce "activist judges," or those who substitute their personal opinions for constitutional imperatives, Birch said lawmakers embarked on their own form of unconstitutional activism.

"This is a judge who, through a political or policy lens, falls pretty squarely in the Scalia/Thomas camp," said law professor and constitutional expert David Garrow, referring to the two most conservative Supreme Court justices. "I think it's a sad commentary that there wasn't a voice like his present in the Congress, because he's saying what a Republican constitutional conservative should be saying."

Jay Sekulow, the chief legal counsel for the conservative American Center for Law and Justice, said Birch got it wrong, while two other judges - including one appointed by Bill Clinton - were right to say they'd accept the Schiavo case.

"I think this whole case is redefining ideological positions," said Sekulow, whose organization has been consulting with lawyers for Schiavo's parents. "I would think an originalist view of the Constitution would come out differently than what Birch says." Originalists try to adhere to the precise language and intent of the Constitution.

White House spokeswoman Dana Perino declined to address Birch's decision directly, saying the president is "saddened by this extraordinary case and continues to support all those who stand up to defend life."

Birch's criticisms highlight the legal conundrum that surrounds the Schiavo case and point to the difficulty it continues to present for some Republicans. Congressional leaders may have believed that they were playing to the party's socially conservative wing by taking extraordinary steps to have the federal government intervene. But traditional conservatives have decried their abandonment of the party's adherence to limited government, states' rights and separation of powers.

Additionally, in order for Schiavo's parents to win in federal court, judges would have to embrace a doctrine of constitutional due process that conservatives have decried. Such "substantive" due process, which Justice Antonin Scalia sharply criticized in a recent speech as part of the threat that will "destroy the Constitution."


2,045 posted on 03/30/2005 5:24:03 PM PST by Clara Lou (I'm not pro-death, I'm anti-hysteria. [WPPFF member])
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To: beyond the sea
Where were the 'Fire Eating Men' for Jesus?

Just wait....

2,046 posted on 03/30/2005 5:24:07 PM PST by the Deejay ( I'LL RESPECT YOUR OPINION....IF YOU'LL RESPECT MINE.....)
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To: AmericaUnited

I think what it means is that you've identified a whole lot of people here that you can call enemies, and you think that's healthy and good thing for this forum.


2,048 posted on 03/30/2005 5:25:25 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Mo1

Let's be clear: I did not endorse Felos in toto, I was commenting on the various descriptions of Terri Schiavo after the feeding tube was removed, period.


2,049 posted on 03/30/2005 5:26:03 PM PST by cyncooper (I see pod people)
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To: Mo1; cyncooper
I personally find Felos and his comments about this whole issue to be distrubing

Read this:

*****

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1372752/posts

Michael Schiavo Lawyer's Personal Spirituality of Death

2,050 posted on 03/30/2005 5:26:16 PM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
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To: unbalanced but fair

see my post 2015.


2,051 posted on 03/30/2005 5:27:00 PM PST by the Deejay ( I'LL RESPECT YOUR OPINION....IF YOU'LL RESPECT MINE.....)
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To: AmericaUnited

You are lying about a whole group of people.

That makes you a liar and evil because you are doing it intentionally.'

Kinda sad.


2,052 posted on 03/30/2005 5:27:08 PM PST by cyncooper (I see pod people)
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To: lugsoul

It's pulled now. Drat! Stupid work...I miss all the good stuff.


2,053 posted on 03/30/2005 5:27:49 PM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: AmericaUnited

But that works both ways, you know.


2,054 posted on 03/30/2005 5:27:53 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (" It is not true that life is one damn thing after another-it's one damn thing over and over." ESV)
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To: AmericaUnited

Give it rest- you change NOT ONE mind with these deliberately provacative antics.


2,055 posted on 03/30/2005 5:28:31 PM PST by SE Mom (Debate, not hate.)
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To: Clara Lou
Congressional leaders may have believed that they were playing to the party's socially conservative wing by taking extraordinary steps to have the federal government intervene. But traditional conservatives have decried their abandonment of the party's adherence to limited government, states' rights and separation of powers

The Congressional Republicans have been so badly burned by this episode that they'll never again try to usurp state authority.

2,056 posted on 03/30/2005 5:28:38 PM PST by sinkspur (I'm in the WPPFF)
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To: Mo1

I think he is a death freak...he clearly loves death and his role in helping to bring about death


2,057 posted on 03/30/2005 5:28:46 PM PST by ruoflaw
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To: AmericaUnited

Your post #2047 a very offensive post.


2,058 posted on 03/30/2005 5:29:06 PM PST by the Deejay ( I'LL RESPECT YOUR OPINION....IF YOU'LL RESPECT MINE.....)
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To: EllaMinnow

It was the end of Anderson Cooper's show. I like him. I got ticked at him during the Gannon interview but had liked him before and then after (especially with his terrific reporting from Beirut).


2,059 posted on 03/30/2005 5:29:45 PM PST by cyncooper (I see pod people)
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To: the Deejay

Very


2,060 posted on 03/30/2005 5:29:59 PM PST by Rheo
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