It can be done if the desire was there.
Posted on 02/28/2005 2:37:27 PM PST by WindOracle
Let's be honest, if the US Government really wanted to put a stop to it, it's a simple matter of hiring more guards or stationing some troops by the border.
I say let's put PITBULLS to good use!!
"Unfortunately some people want resources being used to protect Americans to be diverted to reducing the number of illegal dishwashers and garbage collectors they fear are taking all the good jobs away from them."
Dishwashers and garbage collectors, eh?
That is the biggest IF that's ever been written.
Well, I apologized for what I said while I was still angry... but ya know.. repeating it in your own post, so that when the admin did delete it, it is then left in your post,is a bit stupid, wouldn't you say?
Maybe they are worried about booby traps or something.
They need a friggin' operations order from Washington DC to go into the tunnel.
Probably waiting to get military personel who are trained in the fine art of being a Tunnel Rat. Who knows what sort of boobytraps and such might be in there. I would not crawl thru it.
Yes, it was.
But we know who said it in the first place.
Well golly gee, what a suprise.
Yet we have people who think a fence will solve our problems.
Now, if we dig it deep underground and make sensors to detect this sort of thing, it would work. But, how long would that take to build and at what cost?
For which I apologized, not compounded it. If an apology is not good enough for ya.. then ya can perform an unnatural act with yourself as far as I care.
Interesting theory.
Like most modern countries, the birth rate is slowing down while the death rate is as well.
In parts of Europe, some countries are close to actually losing population.
As for world population projections, it doesn't look like anymore we will see the great overpopulation feared in the 70s, 80s, and even 90s.
This is true, and we do have sensors which could detect it. It is simply a matter of how much we wish to pay for it. We could make it a bit tougher if we had double fences.. seperated by a considerable distance, and allowed no development right up to the border... at least on our side. This would not solve it, but would at least make them dig a little further. Whatever the case, we could definitely figure out some things to make it a lot tougher with some good ole American ingenuity.
Seems to be a natural trend in more developed countries for birth rates to drop. Probably because the chances of raising a child to adulthood increase, and because there is less need to have lots of kids for little plowhorses.
It seems like we have a tendancy though, when famine sets in, to make the problem worse by kickin out lots of kids. I suspect the first reason I gave accounts for that more than anything.
I say we drop something in our side of the tunnel that when it blows, The roof comes off the Mexican house.
It can be done if the desire was there.
LOL.. that would be quite a thing to see, huh?
<< you would think that after dealing with north korea's insanely large tunneling projects for decades, the US would have some decent detection methods. >>
You forget the feral gummint gets to hand-line the talent pool for what's left only after America's 25,000 private employers and corporations have netted, seined, long-lined, trawled and dredged it bare of its every creative, innovative, productive and industrious fish.
Feral gummint employees are the dumbest and least competent among US and 80% of everything done by the mindlessly-malignant bureaucracies they have allowed to metasticize under their watches is done by "contractors" which are, to-the-last-man, inevitably corrupted by the process.
No matter how stupid are the drug and peeople-smuggling criminals up against our ferals the one thing they can and do count on is that as long as their lowliest employee is making a Thousand Bucks a day the chance he will be out-thought by a US feral gummint employee is at bet remote.
Hence thirty-five million criminal alien invaders surrounding US -- and drug sales flourishing in every grade school, police station and Wal-Mart parking lot!
"Some decent detection methods?"
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Stick a hose from a tank of Acetylene in the tunnel and open the valve for 10 to 15 minutes and then introduce a spark . . .
Fastest way to find the other end of the tunnel.
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"But the government is not only unwilling to commit the resources, it provides incentives for the illegals to cross over and give them green cards by lottery."
You might find this interesting.
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GREEN CARDS AND GANGS
Siskiyou County, California, Feb. 26, 2005
They come from Mexico for jobs by way of a document called a “green card”. Such immigrants are termed “legal permanent Residents” with many of the same rights as US citizens outlined here,
o To live permanently in the United States provided you do not commit any actions that would make you removable (deportable) under the immigration law (section 237, Immigration and Nationality Act).
o To be employed in the United States at any legal work of your qualification and choosing.
o To be protected by all of the laws of the United States, your state of residence and local jurisdictions.
o To vote in local elections where United States Citizenship is not required. Click here for more details on voting.
Exceptions
o Some jobs will be limited to United States Citizens because of security concerns.
http://uscis.gov/graphics/howdoi/PermRes.htm
Today Siskiyou county Sheriff Rick Riggins and Captain Mike Murphy presented a slide show and details of Marijuana growing operations on federal forest land as a warning to residents of the dangers of happening across one of these farms. These operations are spearheaded by various Latino gangs, one being the powerful, well armed MS-13 gang that began in El Salvador. Sheriff Riggins stated that his biggest problem in combating this scourge is his office being labeled, "racist".
On Sept. 11, 2004, one such farm was busted by the Sheriff with help from BLM and the forest service netting thousands of plants and several Mexicans who either held green cards or were awol from the Mexican military and in this country illegally. These raids are no simple task as the terrain is nearly insurmountable and usually remote, however one growing operation was within 2 miles of the city limits of Etna, California. Resources are limited in such small counties, with little help from federal officials, even though this organized criminal enterprise has been going on in these mountains for many years. Homeland Security says such operations are not their concern.
The gangs are back this year getting ready for next falls harvest to be distributed across the US. Their supplies and equipment will be brought in from the cities and deliveries to replenish them are undertaken at night every few weeks. The farms are guarded at all times.
Slides of the “camps” complete with a “hooch” for living were shown. Huge pits are dug, one big enough for an SUV, for garbage and waste. The trees are cut or skinned to pile “moats” around the farms to camouflage them. Black irrigation pipe is buried for miles to get water to the plants. The environment on our national lands is being degraded by these operations, destroying habitat and watershed purity.
We saw the AK-47’s, axes, shovels, a . 22 rifle with the name “ Los Pleves” scratched on the stock. We saw notebooks of the growers with markings of MS-13 and a drawing of a Lexus that one “immigrant” intended to buy with the drug profits.
Most of the farms appear to be run by the same organizations mostly through the Mexican Mafia year after year. Though a few are busted, a substantive dent has not been made and they know they can operate here more safely and profitably than in Mexico and there is no worry of getting the product back into the states.
Across the border in Oregon, the story is the same. The Sheriffs of Jackson, Josephine and Klamath County work together to find the farms and arrest the perpetrators. All have been Mexican so far, most with green cards. These same gangs also brew Methanphetimine to finance their organized crime activities during off season.
We do not need yet another “guest worker” program to supply dangerous gangs with recruits. We need to find out why these people were ever allowed in this country in the first place and how to keep more of them out.
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