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Commentary: Truth blown away in sugarcoated 'Gone With the Wind'
sacbee ^ | 11-13-04

Posted on 11/13/2004 11:12:00 AM PST by LouAvul

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To: nolu chan

No they show that the main reason they stayed was because of family and familiarity. This map would show the same thing for most white families. Mine for example three of my brothers stayed in Arkansas, three went to Georgia.


701 posted on 11/22/2004 12:57:02 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

I am a Hamiltonian, about as far from Marxism as one could get.


702 posted on 11/22/2004 12:58:53 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: fortheDeclaration

You mean Hyman Rothstein was NOT an SS man fighting for the 3d Reich? My illusions are shattered!


703 posted on 11/22/2004 1:01:07 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: stand watie

Is your stock of absurdities limitless?


704 posted on 11/22/2004 1:05:29 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: unspun

Some cannot see that the Slavers were the ultimate contradiction to the Constitution which could not even bring itself to mention the abomination by name. But their fantasies are apparently genetic.


705 posted on 11/22/2004 1:18:53 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
"If [Thomas Hart Benton] wrote it fast, does that make it any more accurate?

The content of Sen. Benton's work is not at issue. It was an example used to refute the notion that no one cared about the Dred Scott decision for a year after it was released.

"Again, the Congress had the power to impeach any of the justices, yet none were impeached."

I like the form of your argument here. Congress, too, had the power to impeach Lincoln for alleged "violations of the Constitution," yet they didn't even think about it. It seems, then, your conclusion must necessarily follow that Lincoln did nothing wrong.

"Millions of yankees did not secede, nor threaten secession because of the [Dred Scott] decision."

Now you're catching on. Millions of 1850's/60's Yankees (or as I like to call them ... Americans) didn't pout or feel their honor was impugned every time the issue of slavery was discussed.

706 posted on 11/22/2004 1:22:28 PM PST by capitan_refugio
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To: lentulusgracchus

Slaves in Haiti were essentially worked to death and died the in the tens of thousands every year from the brutality. As bad as conditions were in the South they were nowhere as bad as in Haiti and they didn't outnumber the whites ten to one as there.

However, you apologists are not going to admit that conditions on the plantations could provoke MEN to revolt are you? Must have been the abolitionists fault tempting the weak-minded again.


707 posted on 11/22/2004 1:33:31 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: stand watie

That was your misfortune and hardly representative. My Yankee wife was a gem in every sense of the word and my brothers had the greatest time trying to get the best of that "yankee woman" and wound up loving her as well because she was beautiful, fun and a great sport.


708 posted on 11/22/2004 1:41:13 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
"The gist of the decision is that all members of the union have equal rights to the territories. Seven justices agreed. Sorry if you have a problem with that."

Six justices (Taney, Catron, Cambell, Daniel, Grier, and Wayne) held that the slavery restrictions in the Missouri Compromise were invalid, but there was no consensus on why. Each justice submitted a separate opinion. Taney's discussion regarding the territorial question took about 21 pages. (This question is thoroughly reviewed in Chapter 16 of Fehrenbacher's case study.)

10 of Taney's 21 pages on the Territorial question were dedicated to the odd idea that the "Territory clause" in the Constitution applied only to "land owned or claimed by the United States in 1789. In all areas subsequently acquired, such as Louisiana, the law had no force of any kind." As Taney wrote, the Territory Clause "was a special provision for a known and particular territory, and to meet a present emergency, and nothing more." That interpretation did not have the support of the majority of the Court, as three other justices reasoned differently on the question, coming to the same conclusion with regard to its validity. Taney's odd construction of that constitutional clause has never been upheld by later Courts.

The power of Congress to regulate and make rules for territories was already established before the Constitution was proposed for ratification. The context of the Territory Clause was readily apparent. Taney chose to misrepresent the history and misinterpret the original meaning of the Clause to suit his own activist purposes.

709 posted on 11/22/2004 1:58:37 PM PST by capitan_refugio
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To: capitan_refugio
I like the form of your argument here. Congress, too, had the power to impeach Lincoln for alleged "violations of the Constitution," yet they didn't even think about it. It seems, then, your conclusion must necessarily follow that Lincoln did nothing wrong.

Apples and oranges. Neither President Buchanan nor the federal Congress arrested dissidents. Lincoln had a habit of arresting/interfering with justices of the US Supreme and Circuit courts, state legislators, editors and newspapermen, preachers that refused to pray for him, and anyone else he desired to imprision.

710 posted on 11/22/2004 2:00:30 PM PST by 4CJ (Laissez les bon FReeps rouler)
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To: Heyworth
in other words, you won't admit you are 100% WRONG.

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711 posted on 11/22/2004 2:12:37 PM PST by stand watie ( being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: Heyworth
and this is yet another chance to note that you have NOTHING of MERIT to add.

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712 posted on 11/22/2004 2:13:38 PM PST by stand watie ( being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: capitan_refugio
and you damnedyankees still won't tell the TRUTH & won't just go away & leave us alone.

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713 posted on 11/22/2004 2:14:59 PM PST by stand watie ( being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
ROTFLMRAO!

what a STUPID/BIGOTED post.

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714 posted on 11/22/2004 2:15:59 PM PST by stand watie ( being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
in your dreams.

don't you wish i was wrong about lincoln, the tyrant???

his OWN letters show him to be just another CHEAP politician.

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715 posted on 11/22/2004 2:17:32 PM PST by stand watie ( being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
NOPE. you just are ILL-educated to the TRUTH.

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716 posted on 11/22/2004 2:18:28 PM PST by stand watie ( being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
i'd say yours is the EXCEPTION!

my experience with yankee women is that they are anything but TRADITIONAL in morals/education/attitude/outlook.

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717 posted on 11/22/2004 2:20:25 PM PST by stand watie ( being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: capitan_refugio
i'm a "sort of" admirer of N-S.

UNLIKE most of the unionists on FR, N-S has both a brain & an education.

nonetheless, i also know him to be the "Damnyankee Minister of Propaganda."

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718 posted on 11/22/2004 2:24:56 PM PST by stand watie ( being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: nolu chan
as most of our black soldiers were EXCELLENT SHOTS (most were picked up as sharpshooters & snipers, as they had previously been subsistence farmers. poor shooting=NO GAME= hungry kids!), i'd guess his unit "really saw the elephant"!

TOO BAD we couldn't afford more scoped WHITWORTH's!

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719 posted on 11/22/2004 2:29:05 PM PST by stand watie ( being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: stand watie

Lincoln was one of the greatest men in history and is second only to Shakespeare in his ability to coin a well-remembered phrase. His ability to provoke sheer insanity in those dedicated to defending treason is also admirible.


720 posted on 11/22/2004 2:29:29 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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