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Commentary: Truth blown away in sugarcoated 'Gone With the Wind'
sacbee ^ | 11-13-04

Posted on 11/13/2004 11:12:00 AM PST by LouAvul

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To: capitan_refugio
In 1864, John Merryman fathered a male child

Something Abe Lincoln and David Derickson couldn't do out at the cottage.

2,341 posted on 12/05/2004 12:19:06 PM PST by nolu chan
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
But the NYT did say, "We will concede, too, for the sake of the argument, that the power to suspend this writ exists only in Congress...."

Such was common knowledge, even at the NYT.

2,342 posted on 12/05/2004 12:26:16 PM PST by nolu chan
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To: capitan_refugio
In 1864, John Merryman fathered a male child, who died in infancy. The child's name was Roger Brooke Taney Merryman. Merryman must have been very grateful the Chief Justice wasn't able to spring him from jail.

On 4 Jun 1862, the Maryland Legislature REVOKED Merryman's commission as a Lieutenant in the Maryland County Horse Guards. High society wasn't so high.

2,343 posted on 12/05/2004 12:29:42 PM PST by 4CJ (Laissez les bon FReeps rouler)
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To: nolu chan
"We will concede, too, for the sake of the argument, that the power to suspend this writ exists only in Congress...."

Which validates Taney's OFFICIAL SC opinion, and destroys the arguement of bias.

2,344 posted on 12/05/2004 12:34:27 PM PST by 4CJ (Laissez les bon FReeps rouler)
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To: bushpilot

Old, bad, habits die hard.


2,347 posted on 12/05/2004 1:40:34 PM PST by capitan_refugio
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To: 4ConservativeJustices

That was the Unionist legislature. Merryman was on the wrong side.


2,348 posted on 12/05/2004 1:41:33 PM PST by capitan_refugio
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To: nolu chan

Have you been reading Playgirl again?


2,349 posted on 12/05/2004 1:42:17 PM PST by capitan_refugio
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To: PeaRidge
Lincoln should have read it himself before he sent those sailors from New York and that civilian Fox to start a war in Charleston.

What section of the Constitution did he violate by sending the ships to resupply Sumter?

2,350 posted on 12/05/2004 1:43:10 PM PST by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: nolu chan

Was that reply intended for #2314?


2,351 posted on 12/05/2004 1:45:34 PM PST by capitan_refugio
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To: nolu chan
"Maryland had not seceded.
The Laws of War cannot apply under such circumstance."

Sure they do. The Laws of War applied when Lee rolled into Sharpsburg in 1862 and through the state on the way to defeat at Gettysburg in 1863. Just as they did in 1861.

You can chant your mantra over and over again - it's not going to make your story any more thruthful.

2,352 posted on 12/05/2004 1:49:05 PM PST by capitan_refugio
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
"... or close personal friends."

An exaggeration on your part.

2,353 posted on 12/05/2004 1:50:05 PM PST by capitan_refugio
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To: capitan_refugio
An exaggeration on your part.



Taney was a friend and neighbor of John Merryman, and should have recused himself from the proceedings. Even then, once Taney learned that the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus had been suspended, he should have realized that he no longer had any jurisdiction.

1,428 posted on 11/26/2004 9:12:53 PM EST by capitan_refugio


I can certainly quote part of it for you:

"In the case of John Merriman [sic], the interposition of Chief Justice Taney can only be regarded as at once officious and improper .... Judge Taney presents the ungracious spectacle of a judicial and the military authority of the United States at variance, the soldier eager to punish, and the jurist eager to exculpate a traitor. The antithesis might have been very easily avoided; and an impression that the zeal of the Justice might have been less fervent, had not the prisoner been a citizen of his own State, a neighbor, and a personal friend, would not have countenanced." (From Rehnquist, pg 35) [position advocated by CR]

1,474 posted on 11/27/2004 12:59:39 AM EST by capitan_refugio


You asked for my evidence that Merryman was a "friend and neighbor" of Taney's. You got it. In spades. So stop the cowardly whining.

1,546 posted on 11/27/2004 2:43:28 PM EST by capitan_refugio


I believe the term is "the chain of custody." Lincoln seemed not to have a problem with Cadwalader's actions. The idea of suspending the privilege of the writ was so partisan judges like Taney could not spring their treasonable friends.

1,630 posted on 11/28/2004 2:15:40 AM EST by capitan_refugio


Taney's actions and attitude are perfectly consistent with a partisan judge trying to spring a friend, rather one who is interested investigating the validity of a claim that cripples his authority.

1,710 posted on 11/29/2004 2:38:44 PM EST by capitan_refugio


Taney was a southern partisan. He should have recused himself from sitting on the case of a friend and neighbor.

1,774 posted on 11/30/2004 12:46:31 PM EST by capitan_refugio


Was Merryman a "personal friend of Taney"? You have provided nothing to refute the claim and I have provided a list of reasons to believe that such was quite likely the case.

2,173 posted on 12/03/2004 4:35:14 AM EST by capitan_refugio

2,356 posted on 12/05/2004 2:43:25 PM PST by 4CJ (Laissez les bon FReeps rouler)
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To: bushpilot

Oak Alley Plantation. Been there, seen that.


2,357 posted on 12/05/2004 3:56:52 PM PST by rustbucket
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
Exactly how many times did I write "close personal friend"?

The correct answer is, "What is NONE?"

Stop your exaggerations. You are just wasting bandwidth like your cowardly friend.

2,358 posted on 12/05/2004 5:22:27 PM PST by capitan_refugio
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To: bushpilot
It is called a "death vigil." The wound was mortal and the first doctors (Charles Leal and Charles Taft) to see it realized that was the case.

The scene pictured is incorrect. The bed Lincoln was carried to was too short for his frame and the room was lit by a single gas light. Lincoln was arranged diagonally on the bed, with his head toward the door and his feet over the edge of the opposite corner of the bed. The room was tiny, so small in fact, that Sec. Stanton had to set up a post in the adjoining room.

A total of sixteen doctors would see Lincoln that night, including the Surgeon General Joseph Barnes and the Lincoln family physician, Robert Stone. All of them realized the wound was fatal.

The sad fact behind Lincoln's death was that the more radical Republicans were able to use the assassination to further punish the south, beyond the moderate Reconstruction advocated by the late President.

Tough break, huh?

2,360 posted on 12/05/2004 5:59:44 PM PST by capitan_refugio
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