Posted on 08/20/2004 5:43:21 AM PDT by TexConfederate1861
There were southern guerrilas in the war zones. Throughout the war! You continue to deny the undeniable.
Some were open and used names like the "Partisan Rangers." Others were irregular bands of rebel deserters, bushwhackers, and other criminals. Some were simply psychopaths.
I don't know why would deny they exited. Your compatriots glorify their history. See here: http://www.geocities.com/mosouthron/partisans/
I know he wasn't the dead guy.
You never asked ME, but I'll answer it anyhow. Taney was not correct. He did not say that. You quote is not found in the text [*I'm shocked*] The correct citation is this:
But the public history of every European nation displays it in a manner too plain to be mistaken. They had for more than a century before been regarded as beings of an inferior order, and altogether unfit to associate with the white race, either in social or political relations; and so far inferior, that they had no rights which the white man was bound to respect."Taey is NOT maintaining the position you attribute to him [*I'm shocked*], but noting that for the past century every European nation had done so.
in point of fact, a doctoral dissertation done at the Univ of MN by James A. Ranchino in the 1960s said that the CORRECT figure was 5-6% of southerners, which was about the same percentage as that of the northerners who owned slaves.
as i'm NOT at home & thus have no access to my library, i can't give you more documentation than that now.
i was privileged to take some grad classes under Jim Ranchino in the 1970s.
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torture, mass rapes,arson of private residences,the intentional looting & destruction of places of worship,the taking of civilian hostages & MURDER of civilians is now & have always been WAR CRIMES, which are punishable by DEATH.
you're smarter than that!
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do you have one?
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.the WHOLE TEXT of the resolution has been posted NUMEROUS times on these threads.
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ONE of the OBVIOUS things that heyworth doesn't know is that LTC John S. Mosby was NOT the commander of CSA forces at the battle of Ft Pillow. (as i'm sure you are aware, Nate Forrest was the CG for our side).
heyworth has since said (NUMEROUS times) that he was "just confused". more likely he did NOT know & is now trying DESPERATELY to cover up his ignorance of BASIC FACTS.
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even the USPS exhibit at Camp Sumpter admits that.
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the Law of War CANNOT be set aside by any power.
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COL James Lane & "doc" Jennison were TWO of the most vicious of the FILTH IN BLUE! BOTH raided BOTH sides.
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When you go on about the (add your own invective here) march of Sherman through the south, a close study of the history will show that much of the damage was due to the bummers (not under control of the military authorities), the retreating southern forces, the "army of contrabands" (also not under military control) that followed the Union armies, and common criminals who tagged along.
The point remains - what some of you throw around as "war crimes" were nothing of the sort.
The United States Park Service refers to it as the "Andersonville National Historic Site."
And whatever your interpretation of the exhibit might be, you have yet to post your "evidence" for others to view and make their own decision.
Nathan Bedford Forrest's post-war activities were apparently more to the liking of the hardcore rebs.
The total figure I have for officially recorded deaths says 624,726 for military deaths of all type on both sides combined. Since the numbers are incomplete most reasonable estimates place the total closer to 700,000, give or take. Add 50,000 confederate civilians directly killed for 750,000. We can up things beyond that as well by counting union and border state civilians and civilians who were indirectly killed by displacement. I don't believe there is an exact figure on that anywhere so it's anybody's guess as to how many. Suffice to say, 800,000 deaths is not at all out of the picture. And yes, they were WANTON as they resulted directly from an unnecessary and needless war.
Yeah, and even your beloved Lieber Codes say that torturing people and executing civilians without some kind of charge against them are forbidden. Of course you would prefer that we think otherwise, hence your willful removal of those clauses from the excerpts of it that you posted.
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LOL!
i'm an admirer of BOTH.
btw, at his death, what office did COL Mosby hold???? (this should send most people to the library!!!!!)
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