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Science Icon Fires Broadside At Creationists
London Times vis The Statesman (India) ^ | 04 July 2004 | Times of London Editorial

Posted on 07/04/2004 5:19:27 PM PDT by PatrickHenry

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To: AndrewC
It's worth reading the actual abstract.

Proceedings: Biological Sciences May 07, 2004, vol. 271, no. 1542, pp. 893-901(9)

Liebers D.[1]; de Knijff P.[2]; Helbig A.J.[1]

[1] Institute of Zoology, University of Greifswald, Vogelwarte Hiddensee, 18565 Kloster, Germany [2] Forensic Laboratory for DNA Research, MGC-Department of Human and Clinical Genetics, Leiden University Medical Center, PO Box 9503, 2300 RA Leiden, The Netherlands

Abstract:
Under what circumstances speciation in sexually reproducing animals can occur without geographical disjunction is still controversial. According to the ring-species model, a reproductive barrier may arise through 'isolation by distance' when peripheral populations of a species meet after expanding around some uninhabitable barrier. The classical example of this kind of speciation is the herring gull (Larus argentatus) complex, with a circumpolar distribution in the Northern Hemisphere. Based on mitochondrial DNA variation among 21 gull taxa, we show that members of this complex differentiated largely in allopatry following multiple vicariance and long-distance-colonization events, not primarily through isolation by distance. Reproductive isolation evolved more rapidly between some lineages than between others, irrespective of their genetic distance. Extant taxa are the result of divergent as well as reticulate evolution between two ancestral lineages originally separated in a North Atlantic refugium and a continental Eurasian refugium, respectively. Continental birds expanded along the entire north Eurasian coast and via Beringia into North America. Contrary to the ring-species model, we find no genetic evidence for a closure of the circumpolar ring through colonization of Europe by North American herring gulls. However, closure of the ring in the opposite direction may be imminent, with lesser black-backed gulls about to colonize North America.

1,201 posted on 07/15/2004 8:42:09 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
It's worth reading the actual abstract

Yes, I read it and the title is quite correct. Frogs don't have glass asses.

1,202 posted on 07/15/2004 11:06:06 PM PDT by AndrewC (I am a Bertrand Russell agnostic, even an atheist.</sarcasm>)
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To: longshadow
STROLLING ...


1,203 posted on 07/16/2004 4:11:54 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (#26,303, never suspended, over 186 threads posted.)
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To: PatrickHenry; longshadow

Dead thread placemarker.

RIP.


1,204 posted on 07/16/2004 4:06:40 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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1,205 posted on 07/16/2004 4:14:13 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (#26,303, never suspended, over 186 threads posted.)
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1,206 posted on 07/16/2004 5:14:59 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: rwfromkansas

What a weird question. Belief and proof are two quite different phenomena, hence one need not prove -- much less prove 'scientifically' -- an afterlife to be credulous of it.


1,207 posted on 07/20/2004 7:43:54 PM PDT by dodger
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