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Homosexuality Avoidable, Doctor Tells Parents
San Francisco Faith: The Bay Areas Lay Catholic Newspaper. ^ | Dr. Joseph Nicolosi

Posted on 02/26/2004 3:03:45 PM PST by Jaysun

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To: Jaysun
The explosion of divorced, chased-away fathers produced an explosion of male homosexuality. Now all those homosexuals want to get married. Go figure!
21 posted on 02/26/2004 4:25:51 PM PST by thoughtomator ("What do I know? I'm just the President." - George W. Bush, Superbowl XXXVIII pregame statement)
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To: netmilsmom
I'm guessing you got this far, and understandably quit reading. "To begin, I would say that I think home-schooled children have a particular vulnerability for a number of reasons. The primary reason, especially for the boy (and I'll be focusing primarily on boys), is that it isolates him from his peers." I bet you've been bashed over the head by ignorant b*st*rds who know nothing about home-schooling, so many times that you can see it coming a mile away. Only this time you were wrong. He actually expresses a pretty positive attitude toward home-schooling. Later in the article he says "My experience with home-schoolers is that the fathers are more involved with their kids than typical families and the fathers are what I would consider more masculine, where they are clearly the head of the family and they go to Catholic men 's meetings, etc." and "Furthermore, the decision to home-school, which is a major decision, is usually made by parents who are more concerned. Home-schooling is such an unpopular decision that, for the decision to be made, it usually means that the mother and father are very committed to the children. Already, that tells me that this is going to be a father who is more involved in his children's lives. "
22 posted on 02/26/2004 4:27:20 PM PST by BykrBayb (Temporary tagline. Applied to State of New Jersey for permanent tagline (12/24/03).)
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To: Jaysun
It's true. Lack of sexual identity and abuse or molestation is what causes homosexuality. No one, I repeat NO ONE is born a homosexual.
23 posted on 02/26/2004 4:29:03 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Jaysun
< liberal > If you are a homosexual, you were born a homosexual. If you later decide you are attracted to women, you were born a heterosexual. But if you then decide you perfer men instead, you were born a homosexual. But if you later decide you really like women, you were born a heterosexual. < /liberal >
24 posted on 02/26/2004 4:31:01 PM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: longtermmemmory
Homosexuality is a chose. It is not something that you are born with. A person can be born without a right arm. that is not their choice. But in the case of an accident the person may have to choose to have the limb amputated due to the risk of infection but with treatment they may be able to save it. See a clear cut chose. How come you cannot use the argurment tht I was born with a sexual attraction to young teenage virgins. Sorry it wasnt my chose God made me this way I demand equal protection under so that I can marry my eleven year old lover. (This is not true I am illustrating a point of how the homosexual arguement is a farce.) So homosesexuals tell me why I should not be allowed to marry my sister and her husband. or my mother or father. where does the insanity stop. How far are gays going to be allowed to push this issue. How come I cant just go out into a remote area of the country buy a bunch of land with a bunch of friends and decide that we are passing our own laws allowing the raising of pot plants. multiple marriages, sex with non humans or minors. I would love for a gay person to answer these questions...but I know they wont because their position is bancrupt.
25 posted on 02/26/2004 4:34:10 PM PST by sharkdiver
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To: AppyPappy
Actually, their official line now is that you can't change from being a homosexual. Presumably, everyone who's decided he's "gay" is right the first time, but apparently a number who decided they were straight weren't.
26 posted on 02/26/2004 4:35:32 PM PST by Miles Vorkosigan
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To: netmilsmom
Homeschooling is only recently getting wider attention as an alternative to publik skool. It is still generally fair to say it's an unpopular decision for that reason. The general attitude was indeed that those kids were somewhat isolated.
He says absolutely nothing about homeschool kids sitting around watching TV. In fact, I'd say the article has an overall positive view of conservative families, and homeschooling.
27 posted on 02/26/2004 4:37:55 PM PST by visualops (Hey F'n Kerry: INCOMING! bwuahahahahah!!!!)
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To: netmilsmom
So now conservative Christian homeschooling families are more likely to produce homosexual sons?! What a nut job!

In my experience, it's the neutering, anti-male liberal parents who produce gay offspring.

28 posted on 02/26/2004 4:41:21 PM PST by Marie (My coffee cup is waaaaay too small to deal with this day.)
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To: netmilsmom
Did you even READ the article? I think he was PRAISING homeschooling parents.
29 posted on 02/26/2004 4:42:08 PM PST by bonfire
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To: Jaysun
It doesnt mention Lesbians....
30 posted on 02/26/2004 4:42:50 PM PST by woofie ( If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried)
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To: Jaysun
If this gets out to the main stream this guy can kiss his career goodbye.
31 posted on 02/26/2004 4:49:50 PM PST by mercy
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To: Jaysun
Nothing destroys a child's healthy understanding of his sexual identity as much as early homosexual abuse.

This is why all gay adoption of children is child abuse.

32 posted on 02/26/2004 4:51:06 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Jaysun
I am utterly amazed at the people bashing this article when they didn't even take the time to read it. I expected some people to disagree with the author, but I expected they would disagree with what he's actually saying. He does not say, or imply, that home-schooling is unacceptable or undesirable, or a negative thing in any way. He does say that because it is unpopular, "for the decision to be made, it usually means that the mother and father are very committed to the children." That implies that parents don't choose home-schooling because it's the latest fad. They choose it because they are committed to their children. The article is not about home-schooling. It is about raising children to not be homosexual. He discusses many of the factors he believes are important. One of them is social interaction with peers. Most kids go to public school, and social interaction with peers is automatically a part of that. An example of kids who may not get enough social interaction are home-schooled kids. Social interaction with peers is not automatically built into that structure. It's something that the parents have to arrange. While parents who teach their kids at home tend to care a great deal about their kids, some of them may not realize the importance of peer interaction, or may think they don't need to see as much of their peers as they do. When they begin providing more peer interaction, Dr. Nicolosi sees this as a positive thing. Oh, why am I bothering? Anybody who didn't read the article isn't going to read this either. I give up.
33 posted on 02/26/2004 4:54:50 PM PST by BykrBayb (Temporary tagline. Applied to State of New Jersey for permanent tagline (12/24/03).)
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To: Marie
You just agreed with Dr. Nicolosi. You know, the author of the article you read part of.
34 posted on 02/26/2004 4:58:56 PM PST by BykrBayb (Temporary tagline. Applied to State of New Jersey for permanent tagline (12/24/03).)
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To: Paul C. Jesup
Even identical twin can recieve different portions of hormones from their mother in the womb. That might explain it.

Almost 40 Years ago, a homosexual co-worker told me he could tell that I was a homosexual teen-ager and that my fate was sealed. He suggested that I should just get it over with and spend the night with him. He would have really enjoyed using the hormonal washing argument on me if it had been around.

His parting statement was that I when I reached my 40's, I would find myself fleeing the straight life because homosexuality was my destiny.

I perceive that there was a time very early in my life when I was susceptable to such experimentation (out of ignorance) and such experimentation might have set me on the wrong course but I am convinced that the problem is not one intrinsic to ones own biology.

35 posted on 02/26/2004 4:59:00 PM PST by Tom Bombadil (There are givers and takers. Be a giver and marry one.)
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To: woofie
He does so mention lesbians. In the first 3 sentences he talks about homosexuals, both male and female. Then he alternates between discussing male and female homosexuals. He says that he's going to talk primarily about males, and he does. You win the prize for reading the least. You didn't even read his first two sentences. Why would you bother putting up a post about an article that hadn't read at all?
36 posted on 02/26/2004 5:04:48 PM PST by BykrBayb (Temporary tagline. Applied to State of New Jersey for permanent tagline (12/24/03).)
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To: Tom Bombadil
Personally, I think that person was full of it. Someone else cannot tell you what you think in your mind.

Also, I think there are a lot more bisexuals than either side of this issue would like to admit.

37 posted on 02/26/2004 5:08:40 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Jaysun
This article and its research originates with a Catholic organization. The people doing the studies and those being studied are Catholics. All recovering Catholics know that growing up Catholic creates a unique set of problems for Catholic kids. It is not fair to generalize the results of study of Catholic behaviors to non-Catholics.
38 posted on 02/26/2004 5:11:28 PM PST by Jeff Gordon (arabed - verb: lower in esteem; hurt the pride of [syn: mortify, chagrin, humble, abase, humiliate])
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To: Sabertooth
I identified with the Fairy Godmother in the Cinderella movie. Do you think I'm at risk?
39 posted on 02/26/2004 5:12:32 PM PST by DallasMike
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To: netmilsmom
What? The article says, "I'm not saying that home-schooling produces homosexuals. I am saying that parents who home-school have an additional burden of being concerned about these issues."
Considering who his audience is (Catholics) and that they have a high percentage of their kids in homeschool, he decided to speak about it specifically. There are other valid points in the article that have nothing to do with homeschooling. His overall message is that boys need male influences - that, to me, is valid.
40 posted on 02/26/2004 5:20:16 PM PST by Jaysun (COVER THY PALE LEGS AND SHUT UP.)
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