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The Paradox of Unified Control–How Conservatives Can Win Without Bush
Vanity | 1/31/2004 | Self

Posted on 01/31/2004 3:07:29 PM PST by Kevin Curry

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To: Lazamataz
You also can give me a helping hand

Two-timing me already?

Sheesh, what a fickle pickle you are.

701 posted on 02/01/2004 3:38:05 PM PST by Neets (Complainers change their complaints, but they never reduce the amount of time spent in complaining.~)
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To: keri
I'm interested in saving what's left of my country from scavengers and "politicos" like you.

Your motives may be admirable, but your M.O. stinks. You want to change 60 yrs. of liberal/socialist incrementalism in 4 yrs. When you travel from New York To Los Angeles, sometimes you have to get off in Chicago. In spite of what the dims say, President Clinton placed over twice as many Supreme Court and U.S. District Court Judges then Reagan and Bush 1 combined. I have heard arguments for gridlock, and they are insane. The dims just go Judge shopping, find a fellow traveler, and voilla' the Legislature is usurped.!

702 posted on 02/01/2004 3:38:47 PM PST by woodyinscc
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To: Neets
Two-timing me already?

First come, first served.

In every sense of those words.

703 posted on 02/01/2004 3:39:02 PM PST by Lazamataz (WANTED: Pretty, young chick to satisfy depraved desires. Must have clown suit, monkey, and vacuum.)
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To: gatorbait
Thank you. Can we call for a ceasefire now? :)
704 posted on 02/01/2004 3:39:56 PM PST by honeygrl
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To: Jim Robinson
It's an unprecedented historic opportunity to really kick some donkey ass and get rid of not only some of their liberal excesses, but also to replace the liberal activist controlled courts.

Problem is, Bush is creating some of those liberal excesses.

Well, Congressman Billybob pulled me back from the edge. He made a good case that if there is a conservative bone in Dubya's body, that it would manifest in a much more pronounced fashion in the second term. I'm not so sure Bush has those conservative bones, but.... I'm a little more open minded than before.

ALL bets are off if he signs a renewel to the Assault Weapons ban. Bet ya he'd lose a clean 5 million votes by doing that, mine included.

705 posted on 02/01/2004 3:42:53 PM PST by Lazamataz (WANTED: Pretty, young chick to satisfy depraved desires. Must have clown suit, monkey, and vacuum.)
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To: honeygrl
Can we call for a ceasefire now? :)

We surely can.I'm glad, too.

706 posted on 02/01/2004 3:43:57 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: Lazamataz
5 million?
- I'd say 10, if you give me 2 to 1 odds..
707 posted on 02/01/2004 3:47:29 PM PST by tpaine (I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but the U.S. Constitution defines a conservative. (writer 33 )
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To: Howlin
"You can continue to whine, as you do on every thread you're on, "

If you looked further back than the last month of my posts, you'd see that I've not been one to participate in threads like this before then. In fact, it wasn't that long ago that I was defending Bush whenever the subject came up with my liberal mother-in-law and in the chatroom I use to go to where I got banned for defending Bush. I've just lost the ability to defend him though. I would be lying to myself and everyone here if I do so.
708 posted on 02/01/2004 3:49:32 PM PST by honeygrl
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To: Lazamataz
How about I bring the alcohol? Just make sure that monkey is over 21 this time.
709 posted on 02/01/2004 3:50:50 PM PST by honeygrl
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To: Lazamataz
"First come, first served."

So I get sloppy seconds?

I'll forgive you if you get me that necklace I want for my birthday... :-p
710 posted on 02/01/2004 3:53:29 PM PST by honeygrl
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To: Kevin Curry

I know & FWIW, I think it's downright laughable.

Reagrdless if patrons agree with your rant, I would think it obvious that you aren't a disgruntled Democrat.

But hey, it's easier than debating the points you made and allowing them to stand or fall on their own merit.

Regards Kevin.

711 posted on 02/01/2004 3:54:17 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: honeygrl
"Bush needs to move back over to the right a little if I'm going to be motivated to vote for him."

Any person claiming to be conservative who is not motivated to keep the Democrats out of power after knowing EXACTLY what they will do with it if given the opportunity, has a real problem with reality. They're either political martyrs, have not been paying attention to what the Democrat candidates have been promising they will do if elected, or are ignoring (or are totally or willfully ignorant of) the history of the last seventy years, or are incredibly dense or insane, or have a morbid desire to toil their lives away in the misery of a Liberal Hell! Any person who would support a third party candidate who has absolutely zero chance of winning even one state or even a single electoral vote is so politically naive and devoid of the brainpower that The Creator so graciously endowed upon them, that it's not even worth wasting pixels on.

And I can tell you, that I probably won't be wasting very many more pixels on people who are coming to FR to trash and bash our candidates and or to trash and bash and drive away the very posters I'm trying to attract. If the intent of third party supporters is to cause as much hell and discontent on our forum and to inflict as much damage to FR as they possibly can, well, I can assure you we will have many fewer third party posters left on FR very soon. The LePur colony can have them. Thank you very much.

It might be different if there was a primary involved. These kind of battles need to take place as part of the process of selecting the best person to run. In this case, there will be no primary. God willing and barring any major disasters, George W. Bush will be the candidate. So it will either be Bush or one of the Democrats that gets elected. No one else stands a snowball's chance in hell. And I've given every person on this web site plenty of advance notice (I've been saying it for the last three years) that FR will NOT be used to help replace Bush with a Democrat. Period. End of story.

Again, if that is your intent, leave now or get yourself banned later. Excessive and repetitive attacks on our candidates or our posters will not be tolerated. Try your luck at DUh or LibertyPost. In presidential politics, they are interchangeable.

712 posted on 02/01/2004 3:55:33 PM PST by Jim Robinson (I don't belong to no organized political party. I'm a Republycan.)
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To: woodyinscc
You want to change 60 yrs. of liberalist/socialist incrementalism in 4 yrs.

That would be lovely, wouldn't it? I can't change 60 yrs. of liberalist/socialist incrementalism in 4 yrs. I can only vote for the people that I believe might.

Getting off in Chicago means never getting to LA, if someone has changed your destination.

How does one stop socialism by voting for those who advance it?

713 posted on 02/01/2004 3:58:30 PM PST by keri
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To: Jim Robinson
Bravo, sir.

And thank you!
714 posted on 02/01/2004 4:00:37 PM PST by EllaMinnow (If you want to send a message, call Western Union.)
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To: Jim Robinson
And I've given every person on this web site plenty of advance notice (I've been saying it for the last three years) that FR will NOT be used to help replace Bush with a Democrat. Period. End of story.

HOT DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

715 posted on 02/01/2004 4:00:39 PM PST by Neets (Complainers change their complaints, but they never reduce the amount of time spent in complaining.~)
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To: Lazamataz
Look, if you're in so much of a damned hurry to replace Bush with a real fire-breathing socialist monster, go join your compatriots over on DUh or LP. Thank you. Good luck, best wishes, and hope you wake up from your trance someday.
716 posted on 02/01/2004 4:01:20 PM PST by Jim Robinson (I don't belong to no organized political party. I'm a Republycan.)
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To: Howlin
Just another civil serpent out here. Take heart, most Feds outside California and the Northeast are NOT Liberals.

Hard to believe anyone would admit that, let alone wear it on their sleeve. Enough said.

Good luck with your tax payer paid career.

Why would you say that to somebody trying to earn a living?

We'll after multiple personal attacks by this individual, and then finding out he's compensated by hard working tax payers, I just can't imagine Howlin.

717 posted on 02/01/2004 4:02:31 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Howlin; onyx; Texasforever; nopardons; Luis Gonzalez; Tamsey; quidnunc
And I've given every person on this web site plenty of advance notice (I've been saying it for the last three years) that FR will NOT be used to help replace Bush with a Democrat. Period. End of story.

The Man has spoken. Spread it around.

718 posted on 02/01/2004 4:02:35 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: Mulder
I will try to explain this one more time.

Most Americans are centrist, not far right or far left. Kerry is far left, which is a losing position with the center.

Bush is a center-right president. Conservative on some issues, center on others, liberal on a few.

Kerry is liberal on everything, whether you are talking about taxes, spending, defunding the military and intelligence, abortion, gay marriage, gun rights, or affirmative action.

The media is pushing the idea that Kerry is a centrist, so as to make the general public think him unthreatening, particularly on defense. They are also trying to push the idea that electing the democrat would give us a divided government (gridlock), and are pushing this idea among conservatives that it is preferable.

It is an obvious attemp to manipulate the elctorate through disinformation and propoganda. If the Republicans are divided, it gives the Rats an advantage.

Ask yourself this: if the democrats had all of Congress and the presidency (as they did with Clinton in 1992), how happy would they be to surrender the presidency, even if they still controlled Congress? The answer is obvious....they would consider it a loss.

So why are Republicans and conservatives swallowing this bit of codswallop? The presidency contols foreign policy, cabinet positions, and judicial appointments. We can't afford to lose it.

719 posted on 02/01/2004 4:03:09 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Joe Hadenuf
There are a lot of people on this web site that work for the United States government.

That's an insult to all of them.
720 posted on 02/01/2004 4:04:23 PM PST by Howlin (If we don't post, will they exist?)
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