The Paradox of Unified Control–How Conservatives Can Win Without Bush

Vanity | 1/31/2004 | Self

[tpaine]

PhilipFreneau wrote;

"You are wishing, and pretending to believe. I was a strong Bush supporter before the 2000 election, and remained a strong supporter until recently. I gave him a pass when he extended federal control over education. I gave him a pass when he gave away billions of tax dollars to the victims of 911. I gave him a pass when he voted for so-called "Campaign Finance Reform". I even gave him a pass for doing nothing to stop the flood of technical jobs leaving the country. But immigration was the last straw for me.

News, of late, regarding his support for the so-called "assault weapons ban", and his support for the NEA, have convinced me I made the right choice. If you want to let that usurper off the hook, go ahead. Not me.

158 posted on 01/31/2004 8:55:03 PM PST by PhilipFreneau

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OK, let me ask you why you're against banning the sale and use of assault weapons?
Anyone who disagrees with Bush on this issue is welcome to answer that question. I'd really like to know.
161 -big-

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In fact, if your exchange is reviewed in context, it is obvious that you knew Phil objected to Bush renewing the AWB.. - And asked everyone why that was so bad..

You've been 'outed' by your own words, kiddo..

[FSPress]

But earlier BSF posted that he did not support the AWB and that he wholly supports the repeal of the NFA...

[tpaine]

Isn't it amazing how the trolls on FR just keep multiplying? - Some are quite adept at hiding their true agendas on gun freedoms, etc..

Others, see how successful their 'leaders' are, think it's easy pickings. Fat chance..

[Jhoffa_]

For the keyboard impaired:

Google Search, "George W Bush" "Assault Weapons Ban"

About Two thousand, Three Hundred Hits.

[Roscoe]

Polling data in '92, showed that the second choice for those that cast their votes for Perot, was Clinton. Look it up, burn it into memory. Bush lost because he was a weak candidate, and could have cared less what the base thought of him.

Deja Vu.

[BigSkyFreeper]

Only 2,300 hits? Just damn, I found fifty-nine thousand four hundred. Course I refined my search.

[Jhoffa_]

Yeah, narrowing the terms would bring the hits up..

Either way, there's a wealth of information on this subject dating back to (apparently) the Primary.

[EllaMinnow]

So you think that tPAIN should force others to do his homework?

Go on and dig through all 2300 - there's lots of hysteria by special interest groups on one side linking to other interest groups.

I'm seeing quotes, but I'm not seeing the actual transcripts the quotes come from.

This morning, I heard Howard Dean - who despises President Bush and doesn't want him re-elected say that President Bush will not renew the ban.
On FR, I see posters who despise President Bush and don't want him re-elected say that he will renew the ban.

Why should I - not despising President Bush and wanting him re-elected - believe anti-Bush hysteria from either side?

[tpaine]

The purposeful ignoring of the wants of those considered "radical right-wingers" or the "enemies of the good" is not new. It is part of the strategy of both parties. They want the votes, but don't want to heed the needs of any group that seems too strident, that may embarrass them in their peer group. After all, they are smarter than us, and they don't see any problems from their seat in the back of the limo, or from behind the iron gates. To those that gain high office, it is all casual. It is just so much hoopla, they don't worry about the country being destroyed because the opposition party wins high office. They go to the same clubs, drink at the same pubs, and slap each other on the back and talk about how they fooled them today.
The system exists for a govt that is not ruled by man, a way of doing things that required only honest people to take care to "preserve and protect". It is gone now, forever a footnote in history. It WAS a constitutional Republic, but now it is a democracy, run by the rich and corrupt, to benefit those that keep them empowered. The rich corporations and their boards, and the poor that can be bought to vote them in every time they are needed.

Polling data in '92, showed that the second choice for those that cast their votes for Perot, was Clinton. Look it up, burn it into memory. Bush lost because he was a weak candidate, and could have cared less what the base thought of him.
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Deja Vu.
565 roscoe

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Meaning what roscoe?
What is you reaction to Kevins vanity?

[tpaine]

Near total denial.. - Sad.

[Jhoffa_]

If you want to play obtuse, be my guest..

But the fact of the matter is this is common knowledge and has been discussed and driven into the ground, both here on FR and all over the internet.

Frankly, given your complete ignorance on the subject and your demonstrated unwillingness to even do something as simple as click on a hyperlink, I'm amazed you don't demand Tpaine deliver the information via bicycle courier.

I now return you to your (ahem) *debate*

[EllaMinnow]

Link the actual transcript.

[tpaine]

I don't take your orders, hotshot.

[Roscoe]

http://www.onelook.com/

[EllaMinnow]

And I don't believe a word you type.

[Roscoe]

Feinstein and Schumer Welcome President Bush's Support of Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization

- Seek to Work with President to Swiftly Reauthorize Ban, Close Clip-Importation Loophole -

April 16, 2003

Washington, DC - U.S. Senators Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) and Chuck Schumer (D-NY) welcomed the announcement that President George W. Bush supports the reauthorization of the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban, which is set to expire in 2004.

In an article published this weekend, White House spokesman Scott McClellan said, "The president supports the current law, and he supports reauthorization of the current law."

http://feinstein.senate.gov/03Releases/r-assaultweaponsbush.htm

[tpaine]

I don't care.

[tpaine]

Cute.. --

--- What is your reaction to Kevins vanity?

[EllaMinnow]

In an article published this weekend, White House spokesman Scott McClellan said, "The president supports the current law, and he supports reauthorization of the current law."

Where's the article, Roscoe?

[tpaine]

Obsessed with trivia? Ask Roscoe.