Posted on 11/22/2002 7:33:34 PM PST by FormerLurker
I hear it dissolves tinfoil too. With all that nasty fluoride in rainwater, you might want to stay indooors.
Have you considered adding FormerLurker to your collection?
What a prize!
Is that how they make "stannous fluoride"? BTW Tom, have you heard of DuPont? Hear they had a little mishap back in the 40's...
Ah, but you'd take first place Tom....
Fluoride And The Dumbing Down Of America
ALERT - Fluoride Facts 'Toxic Secrets: Fluoride And The Manhattan Project'
Is Fluoride Really As Safe As You Are Told?
An article about the A Bomb is an epidimiological study?
The only study I saw in your spam involving normal fluoridation is the New Jersey study, and subsequent investigation has found no further evidence. So it looks like you struck out again.
Oh c'mon Tom, you've been waiting for this minute. What have you got to say?
"I'm still waiting"?
This is a study I posted before, but since you didn't look at it I'll post it again. It looked at hundreds of studies on fluoride efficacy and safety (ie cancer rates, hip fracture, etc). Obviously it found no basis for any of the accusations.
Bwahahaha. They DID an internet search and claim they found no negative data. Obviously, they weren't looking too hard..
Perhaps they should try Google next time.
From Fluoride, Teeth and the A-Bomb
These reporters made what appears to be the first discovery of the original classified version of a fluoride safety study that was later published in the August 1948 Journal of the American Dental Association. Comparison of the secret with the published version indicates that the AEC did censor damaging information on fluoride - to the point of tragicomedy.
- The study addressed the dental and physical health of workers in a factory producing fluoride for the A-bomb program.
- The published version reports only that the men had fewer cavities. The secret version reports that most of the men had no teeth left.
- The secret version says the men had to wear rubber boots because the fluoride fumes disintegrated the nails in their shoes. The published version does not mention this.
- The secret version says the fluoride may have acted similarly on the men's teeth, contributing to their toothlessness. The published version omits this statement.
Perhaps they should try Google next time.
Did you LOOK at the studies they used? Would you like me to post them all?
Anyway, I was looking at your "proof" in post #367 and I came across some interesting quotes from this website:
- Charles Gordon Heyd, MD, president, AMA
What they DON'T tell you is that Dr. Heyd was president of the AMA in 1937!
And this:
Here is the Nobel Prize website. I defy you to find Dr. Schatz listed there.
If the websites your get your information from are that dishonest, why should we believe ANYTHING on them?
Can you tell me what that has to do with fluoridated water?
Why isn't this happening everywhere?
Everywhere else I've read about Dr. Heyd 's comments he has been referred to as a past president of the AMA..
Albert Schatz, PhD Nobel Laureate for discovering streptomycin quoted in Sutton's Fluoridation:The Greatest Fraud Here is the Nobel Prize website. I defy you to find Dr. Schatz listed there.
It appears that Dr. Mercola finds that Dr. Schatz SHOULD have been awarded the Nobel prize, as Dr. Schatz DID get the shaft instead of the Nobel...
As far as MY references to either individual, I've posted the following, from Esteemed Voices have, for 50 years, warned the American public that water fluoridation has dangerous long-term consequences to health
"I am appalled at the prospect of using water as a vehicle for drugs. Fluoride is a corrosive poison that will produce serious effects on a long range basis. Any attempt to use water this way is deplorable."If the websites your get your information from are that dishonest, why should we believe ANYTHING on them?
Dr. Charles Gordon Heyd, Past President of the American Medical Association."fluoridation ... it is the greatest fraud that has ever been perpetrated and it has been perpetrated on more people than any other fraud has. "
Professor Albert Schatz, Ph.D. (Microbiology), Co-Discoverer of streptomycin
For one, I haven't relied on Dr. Mercola or the information from his website. There may be some inaccuracies there, and I haven't quoted anything from that source. I simply found some useful information there that matched other information that I was looking through. In relation to your own deceptive and misleading comments, I'd say the minor inaccuracies you found on Dr. Mercola's website are trivial.
It's not like forgetting to mention that a person's teeth have fallen out when saying that they have no cavities. Nor is it like insisting that calcium fluoride totally dissolves in water and that there is nothing different between NaF and CaF2
The only dishonesty I've seen here is from you and your ilk..
It has to do with the ADA's conclusion that as fluoride workers had no cavities, fluoride is good for your teeth (even if that means your teeth rot out of your mouth)..
If they're saying they couldn't find any that showed fluoride to be harmful, perhaps they should simply read this thread and click on some links, as I've obviously found more than a couple...
So posting the comments of a "past president" of the AMA WITHOUT mentioning it was SIXTY FIVE YEARS PAST or personally awarding someone a Nobel Prize because you "think he deserved it" are only "minor inaccuracies". Geez, it hate to see what the major ones are.
You are building up quite an impressive list of goofs. Now tell me, why should anybody believe you?
What? From websites that quote as a source a man who was AMA president 65 years ago, or awarded their own, special Nobel Prize?
Yep, I'm sure they're full of truthful information.
And can you refute these studies or are you just going to continue to wave your hands wildly at them?
I've pointed out that argument is worthless, but since you are clinging to any scrap of hope remaining, you continue to come back to it. So here is a listing of DMDs and MDs from ONE CITY who support fluoride (Worcester, MA):
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Dentists Who Support Fluoridation Robert G. Anusbigian, D.M.D. |
Physicians Who Support Fluoridation George Abraham, M.D. |
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