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Am I to Understand?
Joe Phillips | 7-28-02 | Joe Phillips

Posted on 07/28/2002 12:03:58 PM PDT by BADJOE

Free Republic and Liberty Post.org

To all:

I would hope your appearances and posting on these pages states your desire to undo years of liberal policies in this land I hope we all dearly love. I would hope that a hundred successful LibertyPost.org and FreeRepublics would advance the cause we all hold near and dear.

From what I have read here it seems many are more interested in fighting each other than they are in advancing the cause of individual liberty and limited constitution government as envisioned by our forefathers.

If my second paragraph is the truth, shame on you.

Let us stop the petty bickering about crap that doesn't amount to a hill of blue beans and get on with the job at hand.


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I posted this on Liberty Post.org and was challenged to post it on FR.

The attitude being that I am afraid to post it for fear of reprecussions.

Let it be known that I am afraid of no one.

1 posted on 07/28/2002 12:03:58 PM PDT by BADJOE
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To: BADJOE
The attitude being that I am afraid to post it for fear of reprecussions.

Your post is directly on-target. Some people seem to enjoy forming circular firing squads. I've been invited to post over at LibertyPost, might have to go over there. But I really wish the people on both FR and LibertyPost would pay more attention to our respective similarities instead of dwelling on our differences. When we examine what binds us, it can be quite inspiring.

2 posted on 07/28/2002 12:08:12 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: BADJOE
Let us stop the petty bickering about crap that doesn't amount to a hill of blue beans and get on with the job at hand.

Kinda like the Judean People's Front versus the People's Front of Judea, eh? Monty Python skewed that particular mindset quite well.

3 posted on 07/28/2002 12:11:58 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: BADJOE
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil; for thou art with me; Thy rod and Thy staff they comfort me...
4 posted on 07/28/2002 12:14:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: BADJOE
Different sites with different goals. Frankly, I don't have any problem with them even though they seem to have a hardon for over here.

But I am not sure that the LP is set up for what you imply, Badjoe. It would be nice to see many forums for advancing conservatism and rolling back the governmental monstrosity, but I take the site's founder's words at face value. That isn't the goal of the site. The goal of that site is:

All ideological pursuasions, from Communists to Anarchists and statists to revolutionaries are encouraged to browse and post articles and comments. [source]
Sorry, I have no desire to spend my time battling with various forms of collectivists.

I think the best thing in the world for all involved would be for each group to express the right to freedom of association, and just leave the other alone.

5 posted on 07/28/2002 12:17:51 PM PDT by Dales
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To: Jim Robinson
Thank you Jim
6 posted on 07/28/2002 12:18:28 PM PDT by BADJOE
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To: BADJOE
Trafficant is that you?
7 posted on 07/28/2002 12:19:07 PM PDT by big bad easter bunny
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To: BADJOE
The attitude being that I am afraid to post it for fear of reprecussions.
Let it be known that I am afraid of no one.

Well, me neither.
But may I ask, what is LibertyPost.org and why should I care?

8 posted on 07/28/2002 12:21:07 PM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Dales
True Dales, but frankly we will never convert the chior now will we?
9 posted on 07/28/2002 12:21:38 PM PDT by Ragin1
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To: BADJOE
As one Bad Joe to another..let me give you my impression
that has been formed in last few years. The Democrats have an ironclad vendetta to stop every Republican that gets
in their way...any way they can....George Will had a
column few months ago where he explained "push polling"
that is a common weapon for Democrats in a tight race...
You figure this out..happened in Iowa race...the Dem.
opponent had their supporters calling voters on the phone few days before election: Question: Would you vote for
(name of opponent) if you knew he was going to be arrested
for pornography on the internet? No basis..out of blue
with these type of "push polling"....If you are a Freeper,
you know we are at war with the Dems..watch the sly remarks
by TV commentators, the ripping NY Times articles, the
putdown of Bush,etc. Read the book..Slander and see
if you still want to throw marshmellows at these proteges
of Carville, Clinton, Begala?? Joe..Jake to Freepers.
10 posted on 07/28/2002 12:22:30 PM PDT by sanjacjake
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To: BADJOE
We do need to be more respectful of all who come here. Some participants, especially newcomers, need education, not criticism, from us
11 posted on 07/28/2002 12:23:38 PM PDT by NetValue
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To: Ragin1
No, but the choir can learn to sing together effectively makinng others want to join and/or listen if we don't have our notes being drowned out by the sour notes of the political left.
12 posted on 07/28/2002 12:23:42 PM PDT by Dales
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To: BADJOE
From what I have read here it seems many are more interested in fighting each other than they are in advancing the cause of individual liberty and limited constitution government as envisioned by our forefathers.

The latter does seem to support the former and is, respectfully, almost a contradiction in terms. Are we not free to discuss the limits of this government? Are we to remain silent about the extent of individual liberty? It took years to ratify the Constitution.

I submit, BADJOE, that out of the argument eventually emerges facts that can be the foundation of the truths we believe. Dogma and political correctness is what the other side lives by. If another Conservative agree with me a 100%, I'd think them ignorant, stubborn or a spy.

13 posted on 07/28/2002 12:23:54 PM PDT by elbucko
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To: Willie Green
A fledgling news site much like FR was in the beginning but has a clique of anti Freepers.
14 posted on 07/28/2002 12:23:59 PM PDT by BADJOE
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To: BADJOE
As one Bad Joe to another..let me give you my impression
that has been formed in last few years. The Democrats have an ironclad vendetta to stop every Republican that gets
in their way...any way they can....George Will had a
column few months ago where he explained "push polling"
that is a common weapon for Democrats in a tight race...
You figure this out..happened in Iowa race...the Dem.
opponent had their supporters calling voters on the phone few days before election: Question: Would you vote for
(name of opponent) if you knew he was going to be arrested
for pornography on the internet? No basis..out of blue
with these type of "push polling"....If you are a Freeper,
you know we are at war with the Dems..watch the sly remarks
by TV commentators, the ripping NY Times articles, the
putdown of Bush,etc. Read the book..Slander and see
if you still want to throw marshmellows at these proteges
of Carville, Clinton, Begala?? Joe..Jake to Freepers.
15 posted on 07/28/2002 12:24:32 PM PDT by sanjacjake
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To: BADJOE
You make a good point. I read about 500 more articles more than I post, or comment upon.

Outside of disruptors, as a whole, I am heartend by the general tone and cooperation that I see here. I have some strong opinions re: 911 and its aftermath, and some other topics. Occasionally my mind is broadened (I wouldn't admit that anyone ever changed my mind).

We have better arguments and positions than our foes; we hold them dear, as they are under constant assault in the world around us, logic be damned.

During impeachment whenever things got too hot, I'd weigh in and remind everyone, "As goes the FR, so goes the Free Republic we live in."

Thanks to Jim Robinson and John and the others for keeping us sane.

16 posted on 07/28/2002 12:24:59 PM PDT by IncPen
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To: elbucko
Right on my friend.
17 posted on 07/28/2002 12:27:11 PM PDT by BADJOE
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To: BADJOE
Right on my friend.

Glad we agree a 100%. ;^)

19 posted on 07/28/2002 12:33:19 PM PDT by elbucko
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To: JoeEveryman
I have not the power to police anyone. Nor do I aspire to such power.

The power of words and reason should be enough for anyone.
20 posted on 07/28/2002 12:34:19 PM PDT by BADJOE
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