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Am I to Understand?
Joe Phillips | 7-28-02 | Joe Phillips

Posted on 07/28/2002 12:03:58 PM PDT by BADJOE

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To: stands2reason
I didn't flame. But I did make a point that Libertpost.org did have some earlier problems those posting in there knew about. Now these problems were from those wishing to disrupt or make it FR vs LP and some FR policy issues from what I remember. That was the arguement in that forum and not anti-semetic dribble as found in another forum with a simuliar name from what I gather.

Two forums are being confused here. I remember the LP exchange thread with Bad Joe and even Bob Jones and a few others. I stayed out of it. The anti FR rheotoric in LP it seems for the most part has been handled and the forum is a good place to debate as well as FR. The issue was setttled on or about July 22 I believe as the nonsense stopped at that point if you look at the latest comments there.

BTW for those with a few memory cells left a highly respected Freeper about a year and a half ago set up a small forum and he had to deal with the same thing more or less from the same persons. The results and response was much the same. It was Sit-reps forum to be exact. He got tired of it so did Neil.

Also as a thread posted by the owner Title: LP Notice: Banning Enforcement by IP (FR Thread) http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readarticle.cgi?114+894+0+1 makes his intent clear on the matter. I'm giving him the chance I gave Sit-Rep though I never posted there and not because I have any disagreements or axes to grind with him I don't. But I do remember the disruption it caused here over a certain Freeper getting banned here for mentioning it as a place to post more detail about some subject matter.

The person was promptly re-instated here. Some go to other forums as per JR's wishes to debate subject matter that though not bad {racist, anti semetic, ect} but rather political issues would start WW3 of flame wars in here.

281 posted on 07/28/2002 4:56:48 PM PDT by cva66snipe
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To: Admin Moderator
And if their rating falls below a certain threshold, then their reports get filtered out. - AM


Ahhh I see, a 'clean hands' reliability rating. Neat.

So in effect, - correct me if I'm wrong, - once branded as having politically 'unclean' hands, there is no abuse function. Its filtered out.

- Thanks. - Good to know I'm wasting my time hitting that button.
282 posted on 07/28/2002 5:03:19 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: Nick Danger
We should go right on fighting amongst ourselves, and sorting out our ideas, and dealing with new ones. This is how we win.

Continue warring as in debating? Yes. Warring as to split and fracture ourselves? No.

You speak the truth. Let our side continue to "war" so that the best policy proposals see the light of day.

283 posted on 07/28/2002 5:03:41 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: tpaine; GOPcapitalist; Jim Robinson
BTW - After reviewing your posts to me and to GOPcapitalist, as well as my posts to you, I retract my apology.

You ARE a pre-pubescent school girl, and an arrogant j@ck@ss to boot. You would rather argue about minutia and hurl insults than debate. When GOPcapitalist posted positions with which you agree you were left with nothing negative to say to him other than arguing about trivalities. When I called you on it, correctly characterizing your childish rants, you took offense.

So be it, sometimes the truth hurts. This is my last post to you, you are officially in the bin with CulturalJihad, Roscoe and Dane. Hope you enjoy your company.

284 posted on 07/28/2002 5:04:00 PM PDT by Abundy
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To: stands2reason; Don Joe
Thanx, s2r. But trust me. Some I just simply refuse to even acknowledge the existence of. Nah mean?
285 posted on 07/28/2002 5:05:07 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: 2Trievers
Last I looked Diot ... this was the United States of America. Does it BOTHER you that some post at other sites under different names?

Yikes. I don't believe her message implied any such thing. From what I gather she was simply asking why people cannot post in both places without fear of being penalized.

286 posted on 07/28/2002 5:06:42 PM PDT by StarFan
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To: ArneFufkin
"Gum? That's for RINOs."

You mean I should find some other surrogate to try to quit smoking??? AIEEE!!!!!!!!! :)

287 posted on 07/28/2002 5:08:41 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: tpaine
Actions do have consequences.

But you need not fear. The ratings have helium. You fall below the threshold, and after some amount of time, it pops right back over it. Built in second (and third and fourth and...) chances. Thanks, AM

288 posted on 07/28/2002 5:09:27 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: cva66snipe
"Two forums are being confused here."

Yup. I mentioned earlier in this thread that my comments pertained to LF, I haven't seen LP.

289 posted on 07/28/2002 5:10:13 PM PDT by Don Joe
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To: dirtboy
They probably complain. But some posters are slick enough to say "Libertarians are just interested in legalizing pot because they are druggies" without directly attacking individual posters. That's what I mean about finding a crease in the posting guidelines.
277 DB


Exactly. -- Then if a flame war evolves, who usually gets the much dreaded "knock it off" first?
- You got it. - The libertarian.

290 posted on 07/28/2002 5:12:23 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: stands2reason
" ...regarding your opinion of lack of evenhandedness by the mods: Are you being ignored after complaining about posts that should be pulled, or do you just see things that don't get pulled that you think ought to? I think the statists are, by their nature, more apt to complain to the mods about what they consider inappropriate posts, just as libertarians are, again, by their nature, less likely to push that "abuse" button.'

I have never asked for a thread to be pulled, unless I goofed and posted a dupe. I was referring to posters who 1) carry their agendas with them from thread to thread, like some kind of Dickensonian chain for weeks and months; nothing is done about this; 2) threads that are pulled or posters banned because they may disagree with Bushbots who seem to run in packs. From my distant observations, 3)several times it appears that favoritism has been shown concerning who gets banned or what is pulled. That is what I meant by the erratic application of policy. And sometimes you can't figure out whether you are coming or going, or what "prevailing" policy is going to be in the wind today. &;-)

291 posted on 07/28/2002 5:20:36 PM PDT by 2Trievers
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To: StarFan
It's been settled off-line kiddo. Thanks, &;-)
292 posted on 07/28/2002 5:22:50 PM PDT by 2Trievers
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To: cva66snipe
I didn't accuse you of anything, and I apologise if you felt that I did. You were only the receptee of the comment I was referring to. But I did appreciate the info about the mixup of the fora.
293 posted on 07/28/2002 5:30:56 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: tpaine
Exactly. -- Then if a flame war evolves, who usually gets the much dreaded "knock it off" first? - You got it. - The libertarian.

Maybe that's because this isn't a libertarian forum. You'd have to be pretty naive to think biases won't come into play.

294 posted on 07/28/2002 5:37:21 PM PDT by Black Powder
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To: stands2reason
No problem. I think there's several misunderstandings in this thread going on :>}
295 posted on 07/28/2002 5:40:25 PM PDT by cva66snipe
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To: 2Trievers
Glad to hear it! Peace.
296 posted on 07/28/2002 5:42:26 PM PDT by StarFan
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To: Black Powder
Maybe that's because this isn't a libertarian forum. You'd have to be pretty naive to think biases won't come into play

Actually, as of late last week this is a quasi-libertarian site...better keep current on the news

297 posted on 07/28/2002 5:44:39 PM PDT by Abundy
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To: Abundy
You left me out again.
298 posted on 07/28/2002 5:45:44 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: TLBSHOW
Give it up, dude. She ain't gonna call you.
299 posted on 07/28/2002 5:46:32 PM PDT by StoneColdGOP
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To: StoneColdGOP
Well here is something we can all agree on


300 posted on 07/28/2002 5:53:13 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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