Posted on 06/16/2010 9:40:15 PM PDT by InspectorSmith
Well Lucas HAS fought ( with some guy at a chicken place I think)
He didnt die but he dodged ...skipped out on bail too
and his country? Im not sure where the world traveller lives but he takes a lot of videos of the Dominican Republic
Wherever I was, it didn't look anything like IS's pictures.
“I also subscribe to the Plantain Ping List”
I so gotta get myself added to that.
Neither does Kenya.
Lot of flak on this thread...
Maybe he was telling the truth after all.
maybe I should apologize
If it is determined while they're trying to run, that's easy. Too bad-—you're disqualified. The rules are the rules.
If you've already been elected, certified and are in office, then that's up to the political process. Whether it chooses to act or not will probably be a question of degree. If someone discovered you had only been a resident in the United States for 13 years and 360 days instead of 14 years, I'm reasonably sure no one would do anything. If it turns out you were elected with a false identity and were actually a Colombian drug lord, the process would certainly mobilize to remove you.
The reality, however, is that it's very hard to hid a significant fact like being born abroad, so this is unlikely to come up. Now, I know you believe it has already happened. But when I look at the cards on this table, all the actual evidence indicates to me that Obama was born in Hawaii; all this carrying on about various reasons without evidence why he could have been born somewhere else is no basis for doing anything. It's just wild and baseless speculation. Obama isn't obligated to answer me when I ask if he's quit beating his wife yet, and he isn't obligated to answer this stuff, either. I would defend any hypothetical President subjected to such irrational conspiracy mongering.
As far as the two-citizen parent stuff goes, that doesn't strike me as a basis for doing anything, either. Now if it was a matter of established law that one must have two citizen parents to be NBC and Obama had concealed his true father's identity, that would be a problem. But that isn't what happened. Obama was completely open about his father being a non-citizen, it was a stipulated fact before the election, and nobody charged with vetting and certifying his election saw it as a problem relative to NBC status. They didn't see it as a problem because, quite frankly, there's a well-understood legal and historical basis for why Obama would be a NBC with a non-citizen father. So again, I would defend any hypothetical President with the same circumstance subjected to the same complaint.
Yes, I agree, there is a lot of flak. I’m sorry to say that is what happens when birthers & anti-birthers try to discuss the birth issue.
That may be, but it was long ago and he paid for it. Have you never done anything you wouldn’t want the world to know? Have you never committed any infraction at all? Even a traffic ticket?
What was it Christ said..”Let those among who are without sin cast the first stone!”
This is what I think you are dealing with:
Profile of the Sociopath
Glibness and Superficial Charm
Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.
Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as “their right.”
Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.
Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.
Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.
Incapacity for Love
Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.
Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others’ feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.
Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.
Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet “gets by” by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.
Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others’ lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.
Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.
Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.
Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.
This is what I think you are dealing with:
Profile of the Sociopath
Glibness and Superficial Charm
Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.
Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as “their right.”
Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.
Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.
Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.
Incapacity for Love
Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.
Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others’ feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.
Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.
Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet “gets by” by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.
Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others’ lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.
Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.
Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.
Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.
I think it's nonsense. I believe Obama was born in Hawaii and, as such, he's eligible for the Presidency. I didn't vote for him but 69 million other Americans did and that's the real issue.
If anyone wants to know why Obama hasn't forked over his "long form" BC, one only needs to look at the circus of scam-artists, grifters, military shirkers, unhinged cranks and other assorted clowns helping out Obama in their efforts to draw attention away from his real failures. If these folks aren't being paid by Obama, they should be.
Suppose for example we had a president, that is not Obama, who's eligibility is in question, just where would your loyalties be ?
Such a man would never survive the primaries. There's no conspiracy. Just a bunch of birthers pimping half-baked, made-up "facts" while blindly serving as the albatross around the neck of conservatism.
I'm sure you couldn't have meant that to describe Lucas because you don't know him well enough to describe his inner self.
But you really didn't have to post it twice. I wouldn't read the same newspaper twice either. For some strange reason, the words stay the same no matter how many times you read it.
You talking about Smith or Obama?
Did you HAVE TO DELETE THE WHOLE POST?
Why not just take out the link to the site?
both
We can’t edit member posts, the only edit power we have are the original thread topic (title and body).
Or maybe its photoshop.
http://www.city-data.com/forum/photography/415521-what-grows-trees-3.html
Scroll about 3/4 of the way down the page.
I wasn't looking for this image, never expected to find it, just wanted to see what a plantain tree looked like, but there it was - first image that comes up on a google "plantain tree" image search.
http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=yM7&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=s&q=plantain+tree&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=ikcdTO3ZA6S8M4ioyJIF&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CCIQsAQwAA
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