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If you try pulling the “White European Christian” tagline in Russia or Ukraine...or even speaking Russian instead of Ukrainian in parts of Ukraine right now or vice versa - it won’t be pretty.
French people are not the same as Germans,
Irish do not wish to be lumped with Scots or Brits.
Albanians are not Serbs. And the list goes on.
So instead of “White European Christian” just say “white-skinned American born” to be specific. It wasn’t that long ago that even being Catholic barred you from most elite echelons of US society.
Preach it!
A97: That can't happen until all races, ethnicities and religions put America First.
Actually it can. It doesn't matter if EFVERYONE agrees with it. I can and will embrace my identity as an American regardless of others doing it or not because that identity still exists in many places.
In any group you have subgroups that compete.
Those groups you mention, today they all call themselves whites, and therefore the war against whites includes all of them.
It doesn’t matter if you’re Irish, English, French, italian, Russian, etc. They all fall under the group, “white”, and they have common interests that they must defend and promote or else as a group they’ll be made second and third class citizens.
Even if you were to be fluent in German or French or Finnish, Serbian, or what have you -— the natives of those respective countries would NEVER see you as their own. Swedes and Danes don’t just “blend.” And of course Ukrainians and Russians are at war.
In terms of US culture: there’s very little cross-over. Sure those countries have fast food and other globalized things like Hollywood movies as frames of reference — but there are next to no Walmarts, and other fixtures of American life for example. And a lot of the music like Jazz & Blues they credit to black American culture.
They don’t sing Star Spangled Banner, or Pledge Allegiance to American flag. And of course all their recent World War lore is varied...though there is shared strings with certain allies.
All this to say, “white” is not some globally agreed upon shared identity. So better to just say “white-skinned American born.”
1. So what? Some whites identify as white, some don't. Everyone can identify as they wish. It's not "wrong" to identify as white even if not all whites do.
2. "White" as an identify doesn't necessarily refer to melanin.
3. As anti-white discrimination increases, I expect more whites, even in Europe, will identify as white. At least it will form a part of their identity. When you're attacked for the same reason, you begin to feel a sense of camaraderie.
Good luck telling them that and getting them to sing your national anthem while you’re at it.
CP: So instead of “White European Christian” just say “white-skinned American born” to be specific. It wasn’t that long ago that even being Catholic barred you from most elite echelons of US society.
Which has NOTHING to do with the point aquila48 was making. Besides, Catholics should be the last ones to gripe about being excluded from stuff considering Catholic church history.
aquila48 is correct. White European Christians are responsible for a large part of the culture we have today. All that didn't just come into existence when the US was established.
Matter of fact, without that White European Christian foundation established through hundreds of years, the USA would not exist as the concepts that enabled this country to be founded on are the fruit of that thinking and culture that so many people now despise.
You’re projecting your sense of an American existence onto countries with histories, cultures, languages, and rivalries that stretch millennia.
America is about to turn 250 - a mere infant by in comparison.
And those countries are not based around Constitutions or Declarations of Independence. Those countries ARE ethnocentric. Immigrants can’t just take an oath and be seen as “one of them.”
And depending on colonial and other dynamics...of course there are African-French, African-Brits, etc...but even with the trade(s), they didn’t have the same pronounced North/South context as here...so even their racial dynamics don’t translate exactly the same.
The migrant crisis is not making people question their sense of French or German or Italian identities — it’s purely territorial.
What does the national anthem have to do with what we’re talking about?
Race identity goes well beyond national borders. It doesn’t matter what nationality they are, for those who hate whites they’re all the same.
Same with Nigerians, or Ugandans, or Liberians, etc - they’re all seen as blacks, even though they might speak a different language and don’t especially like each other.
Nigeria alone probably has hundreds of languages and tribes that are at each other’s throat.
- Well firstly, if the person of Jesus were to come speaking his native Aramaic, it’d be interesting to know how some here would react.
- Secondly if the issue is... that, so long as black women can go on and on obsessing about race, then white people should too...then do so. Stoop down to that woke level but in reverse.
- It’s ignorant to lump all Europeans together. Not only is Europe made up of multitude of cultures, histories, languages — but altogether: they don’t sing your anthem, they don’t wave your flag, and they don’t shop at Walmart.
- And many most certainly won’t join you in YOUR version of church.
While It’s true that contemporary American-Evangelical styles of worship have become trendy in some places, you’re dealing with cultures of Christians who are following thousand plus year old traditions, in thousand plus year old buildings, with thousand plus year old hymns and chants and devotions to boot...
I’m saying that...Ukrainians currently fighting with Russia, are not going to buy into some “pan-white” identity based melanin levels. Saying “Kyiv vs. Kiev” can be a matter of life or death. Do you realize that?
Repeating here but: Germans are not French. Irish are not Brits. Finns are not Danes...Greeks are not Serbs, or Italian. Spaniards and Portuguese border each other but ARE NOT “united” racially or otherwise from THEIR perspective...That’s not how THEY view identity.
Just go to South America and see how distinct Brazilians are from Argentineans etc...They value those differences.
Brazil is more like the US in terms of its melting pot makeup however...so I suppose there you will find that “white (Portuguese) leaning looking Brazilians” vs. “mixed with Native” vs. “Afro-Brazilians” etc...And yet it’s the country that produces the most Supermodels. Maybe God is onto something with mixture...
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Nobody is trying to "get them" to do anything. They'll do as they please.
In time, they might see themselves as white. If not, then not. If yes, then yes.
It's all good, either way.
The point is, if whites want to identify as white, it's okay. It's not racist. It's not evil. It's okay.
Oh noes.. now it’s limited to pizza, baklava and macarons... no croissant, because it’s associated with victory over Muslims...
Catholics aren't griping about anything.
Some people merely want to cause division among white Christians by raising a non-issue.
I'm not projecting anything.
As I keep saying, Europeans are free to identify however they please.
As anti-white violence increases, I think Europeans will feel a greater sense of camaraderie with fellow whites. But either way, it's up to them. And it's all good, whatever they decide.
I think people will react just fine.
Although in Acts 2, everyone heard God's message in their own language.
I disagree with Shapiro that that means "laying low" everybody else. Loving your own does not imply hating others. Of course, Shapiro doesn't hesitate to identify with his group (ie Jews) and advocate for their interests. Well Ben, kindly afford us the same right you freely exercise for your group and which everybody else exercises for theirs.
As a teenage rock and roller I wanted to live like a rock star. Your best friends were your band, all caught up in the same post-Vietnam funk, but we were just being good little fans; buying up the albums & tapes, concert tickets, stereo systems, cars, T-shirts & posters, weed & “chemicals”, getting laid, etc. We weren’t old enough to have served in that war and we still didn’t know much about how it all got started, but we had been watching from an early age what was happening over there and here at home. I don’t think we ever thought about what identity we should have other than just being a part of that scene.
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