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Mohamed stitched together his phony “religion” by stealing from Judeo-Christian practices and beliefs.
What nonsense and an attempt to dehumanize them. Genetic testing has shown that Palestinian Arabs are indigenous to the territory. Nor does speaking Arabic make them the same as other Arabs. The Egyptians, too, speak Arabic but they are not Arabs, they are Egyptians. The Irish speak English but they are not English, they are Irish.
Yep. “Palestine” is the name of a geographic location, and a very new one. There are palestinian arabs, palestinian jews, etc. But there are no “palestinians”.
And when the Jews took over that area almost a hundred years ago, there were only a few thousand arabs living there. But millions came after Israel tried to civilize the area, and now they are trying to argue that they are “indigenous.” It’s laughable.
It’s like when a metro bus is involved in an accident and everyone around it quickly climbs in so they can claim they were a passenger and should get some benefit.
Very well said.
What a weird reply. So Arabs are not Arabs?
*** Israel tried to civilize the area ***
Yes, the rest of the planet has seen their efforts. /SMH
Hamas "Minister of Interior" - Palestinians Are half Egyptian and Half Saudi. Feb 18, 2025 #israel #palestine.
Hamas Minister of the Interior and of National Security Fathi Hammad: "Personally, half my family is Egyptian. We are all like that. More than 30 families in the Gaza Strip are called Al-Masri ["Egyptian"]. Brothers, half of the Palestinians are Egyptians and the other half are Saudis."
"Who are the Palestinians? We have many families called Al-Masri, whose roots are Egyptian. Egyptian! They may be from Alexandria, from Cairo, from Dumietta, from the North, from Aswan, from Upper Egypt. We are Egyptians. We are Arabs. We are Muslims. We are a part of you." #palestine #israel
Their claim to be the rightful inheritors of the land represents one of the most successful, if fiendish, propaganda achievements ever to have been pulled off—to have persuaded millions of people that this ludicrous falsehood is an unchallengeable truth.Melanie Phillips. (Aug. 29, 2019 / JNS).
The Palestinian National Movement and its Palestine Authority aim to rewrite the history of the Land of Israel. They have developed several agendas about the history of the country.
One agenda claims that they are the ancient population of the country they call Falstin (Palestine).
The other claims said they settled in the country in 640; they have a history of 1,381 years. The Jews, they say, have no historical claim on that country; but another agenda claims that Jews did populate the country, but the Romans conquers never exiled the Jews two thousand years ago.
The Jews converted to Islam during the Arab-Muslim occupation of the country (640–1099) and that the Palestinians are the descendants of these Jews and, therefore, the rightful heirs of the country. But the historical facts tell a different story.
This book is the second volume of When and How the Arabs and Muslims Immigrated to the Land of Israel.
The first volume deals with 640–1914 and brings evidence that most Palestinians are descendants of immigrants who came to the country from Arab and Muslim countries in small numbers during a slow process over hundreds of years; and between the end of the nineteenth century and First World War, their number grew by immigrant workers. This volume brings evidence that under the British Mandate rule (1918–1948), waves of Arab/Muslim immigrant workers entered the country illegally because of the British policy to ignore illegal immigration. The British mandate government actually ordered the Transjordan army responsible for controlling the borders to ignore illegal immigration.
Also, the British Army brought Arab workers from Egypt, Syria, and Lebanon to build and work in their camps. The economic and employment opportunities created by the Zionist Movement, Jewish investors and immigrants, Christian organizations, and the British Mandate in the Land of Israel drew an increasing number of Arab immigrant workers. These opportunities were much better than those they had in their home countries.
When the Ottoman rule ended, there was no Palestinian national identity or political borders. It was all made up later. Arabs themselves say so, but the west isn’t listening.
Israel's minister of finance, Bezalel Smotrich, who only a few days ago shoved a similar historical truth in the face of the Palestinians – "There's no such thing as the Palestinian People" – is in good company. Voll might have opted for a gimmick, but Israel's late prime minister, Goldar Meir, used the exact same words fifty years ago, as did Newt Gingrich, a former Republican politician and speaker of the United States House of Representatives. Gingrich referred to the Palestinians as "an invented people who want to destroy Israel", "Arabs who migrated to Israel during the Ottoman Empire period...". When US President Obama disagreed with him, Gingrich scoffed at him, describing the administration as: "so out of touch with reality that it would be like taking your child to the zoo and explaining that a lion was a bunny rabbit".
Even Arab and Palestinian leaders have been known to admit the truth in a slip of the tongue. Perhaps the most outstanding example of this is that of Zuheir Mohsen, one of the leaders of the as-Sa'iqa faction of the PLO, who was targeted by the Mossad, but left us with an unparalleled heritage: "The Palestinian people do not exist," Mohsen explained to the Dutch newspaper Trouw back in 1977. "The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the State of Israel for our Arab unity.... Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism."
And so Smotrich, even though his name is Smotrich, is absolutely right. "The Palestinian People", as he put it, "is an invention less than one hundred years old", and if anybody is genuinely entitled to the title of being Palestinian, then that would be his grandfather, a 13th-generation resident of Jerusalem, along with a number of other grandfathers and grandmothers with whom I am personally acquainted. The imaginary, or more correctly the late, or extremely late "Palestinians", migrated here en masse in the late 19th century and throughout the years of the British Mandate, and they had no idea at the time that they were "Palestinians" or that they were a "People".
From Egypt to MasterChef.
At the time, not a single one of them claimed, as did former Palestinian politician Saeb Erekat (who passed away two years ago) who lived in Jericho together with his family 3,000 years before the People of Israel came to the city under the leadership of Joshua. None of them regarded themselves as the descendants of the Jebusites or the Philistines. Many of the "Palestinian" migrants recognized the Jewish history surrounding the Land of Israel and the Jewish birthright to the land. At that time, they did not turn Jesus into a Palestinian preaching Islam rather than Christianity, as their current counterparts' nonsensical claims would have us believe, and they never even contemplated making claims to be the original natives of this land.
How do we know this to be the case? It's simple. They themselves talk about this on a thousand and one random and sometimes less random occasions. Take for example Ms. Salma Fiomi, a resident of the Israeli Arab town of Kafr Qassem, who demonstrated her culinary skills on the popular TV competitive cooking show MasterChef. On the show, Fiomi proudly presented her version of Koshari – a popular Egyptian dish of rice and lentils. "My family", explained Fiomi, "came from Egypt, from Al-Fayoum, and I, Salma Fiomi, come from Al-Fayoum."
Another prime example that doesn't really leave much room for interpretation can be seen in the words of Fathi Hamad, the former minister of the interior in the Hamas government, who urged Egypt to provide help during IDF Operation Returning Echo in the Gaza Strip in March 2012. "When we call for your help," he explained, "It is with the aim of continuing the jihad. Praise Allah – All our us have Arab roots, and every Palestinian in the Gaza Strip and throughout Palestine is able to prove his Arab roots, whether from Saudi Arabia, Yemen, or anywhere else. We have blood ties... Personally, half of my family is from Egypt. Where is your mercy? More than 30 families in the Gaza Strip are called Al-Masri. Brothers, half of the Palestinians are Egyptians, and the other half are Saudis."
Dozens of books and records left behind by visitors to the Land of Israel clearly illustrate that at the turn of the last century, the land was desolate and empty, and the alleged "Palestinian People" migrated here only following the renewal of Jewish settlement in Israel as part of the modern Return to Zion in the 19th century. This is the case in the famous research of Israel's former President Yitzhak Ben-Zvi on the Ottoman period. This is also true of American journalist, Joan Peters, author of the book From Time Immemorial, who estimated that at the beginning of the First Aliyah in 1882, there were some 141 thousand non-Jews only living in the Land of Israel. The works of the Hebrew University's Professor Moshe Ma'oz also support this view, underscoring the fact that for centuries the number of Arabs living here in Israel never exceeded 100 thousand.
Ze'ev Galili's research further develops this approach, as he arrived at the following, logical conclusion: if towards the end of the 19th century, there were about 100 thousand Arabs living in Israel, this means that in the seventy years that elapsed from that point to 1948, the Arab population increased twelvefold, and the only way to explain such an increase is that it was the result of mass immigration from neighboring states.
Nations that must invent.
Anthony Smith, the renowned sociologist and Professor of Nationalism and Ethnicity at the London School of Economics, once distinguished between two types of national identity. The first type includes nations with a core identity based on culture and history, and the second – nations without any such nucleus that are required to invent everything from nothing.
We belong to the first type while the Palestinians belong to the second type. It is as simple as that. This is essentially what Smotrich said, and Smotrich, even though his name is Smotrich, was right on this occasion. The Al-Masri clan migrated here from Egypt, the Al-Mughrabi clan from Algeria, Al-Turki from Turkey, Al-Iraqi from Iraq who settled in Taibeh, and the Al-Ajami clan from Iran. The Kna'an family in Nablus does not hail from the historical Land of Canaan but rather from Aleppo in Syria. As the renowned researcher, Pinhas Inbari, has suggested, the Erekat family from Jericho originates from the large Al-Huwaytat tribe that moved from Medina and then settled in Jordan, as well as in Abu-Dis and in Jericho. Thus, it is clear that they all came from the immediate "neighborhood".
The term "Palestinian People", in relation to the Arabs living in Israel, appeared for the first time in 1964, in the PLO Charter. The outrageous UNRWA definition, according to which the minimum seniority required in Israel in order to define an individual as a Palestinian refugee (both him and his descendants) amounts to two years, still does not qualify to turn the Palestinians into a people.
The Palestinians have almost no unique defining trait. Neither religion nor language, and no common ethnic background or history and shared homeland. If you take the trouble to examine the long-winded, multi-clause definition that UNESCO contributed to the term "people", you will also discover that the Palestinians do not meet the majority of them.
"The Palestinian People" was created especially for us, only following the Shivat Zion ("Return to Zion") movement and the subsequent renewed Jewish settlement in Israel, in an attempt to wipe us off the map along with our unbroken, thousands-of-years-old bond with this land. There is really no need to waste any words on our roots to the Land of Israel, in stark contrast with the fake roots that the Palestinians have tried to put down. Our history is manifestly documented in the chronicles of history, in the Bible, undeniably etched in archeology and research. We have no need for inventions and historical forgeries. As the 19th-century British statesman and social reformer, Lord Shaftesbury, so aptly put it 180 years ago, we returned as a "people without a land to a land without a people".
*** Israel tried to civilize the area ***
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Yes.
Oh please
Yes. It’s the only truly civilized country in the region. And now that they’ve finally abandoned “land for peace”, they can bring the Gaza strip and the west bank up to speed.
Uh, the 1922 census of the Palestinian Mandate showed ~591,000 Muslims (ostensibly “Palestinians”), ~84,000 Jewish, 73,000 Christian and 7,000 Druse, with a smattering of Hindus, Sikhs and others.
Different sources quote different exact values.
https://users.cecs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/yabber/census/PalestineCensus1922.pdf
https://israelforever.org/state/Mandate_for_Palestine_Jewish_State/
“Genetic testing has shown that Palestinian Arabs are indigenous to the territory”. So what! It doesn’t take away from the fact that they are not a unique “race” of people. The writer is correct. Look at the history.
BTW, based on the history I’ve read, the reason there were so few Muslims in the coastal areas is that that is where the Crusaders entered long before and it was considered by most to be a place avoided - just in case.
Of course, the Jews didn’t worry about such stuff when they bought up so much of the land.
Mandatory Palestine was what that map calls “Jewish Palestine”, not Trans-Jordan. Note that Trans-Jordan was explicitly not included.
attempt to dehumanize them ?
Buddy, they dehumanized themselves 10/7
And ilk like you who defend them are no better.
The name Petrosius appears to be a variation or derivation of the personal name Petros, the Greek form of Peter. The suffix “-ius” suggests a Latinization or an extension that implies “son of Petros” or “belonging to Petros.
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So...a Jew hating preterist.
Figures.
“Arab” can have a variety of meanings. The author is trying to imply that there are no real Palestinians, and therefore have no real claim to Palestine. They are Arab speakers who are indigenous to the territory known as Palestine and are thus rightly called Palestinians. They are not, Jordanians, Egyptians, Iraqis, Yemeni, etc. Although they all speak Arabic, that are all distinct peoples, just as are the various English speakers around the world.
Not a unique race, but a unique people. The author is trying to push the idea that there are no such things as real Palestinians and thus have no real claim to Palestine.
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