Posted on 08/10/2025 12:30:57 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator
Including that "the Zionist conspiracy" started Communism?
I am not a "dispy."
Perhaps you will elucidate all the horrible anti-conservative things Israel was doing???
He did. His words saying exactly that are quoted in the "article."
You have GOT to be kidding! Have you even read their articles (which are strongly anti-Israel)?
My history professor in high school was a JBS proponent/member. All I remember was he was very anti-communist and provided me an excellent education in history. But he was absolutely not anti-Semitic in the least.
I used to hang out at their HQ in Belmont, MA many decades ago.
The subject of Israel and Jews never came up once.
No anti-semitic literature was available in that store—and I looked at every single volume that was for sale there.
I do remember that National Review types used to smear them by calling them racist and anti-semitic though.
What articles have you read in JB publications that are strongly anti-Israel?
Who are the descendants of the Learned Elders?
Doesn't exactly sound like the ravings of an anti-Semite.
The Chad Mitchell Trio’s opus was answered by “John Birch, American” by the New Breed (1963), released on the Impact label. Unfortunately, the record doesn’t seem to be available anywhere in electronic form. I will have to put my copy on Youtube when I get the gear to be able to do so.
I made it another 628 paragraphs further than you, but realized I was only 15% through it and stopped.
+1
And I need to feed that wall of OP text into an AI to summarize.
“ The author quotes personal correspondence of the JBS’ founder in which he admits that he believes that “the Zionist conspiracy” spawned Communism. THAT isn’t anti-Semitic???”
It’s sloppy and certainly problematic, and we don’t know the full context of the statement . And it’s sadly true that early zionism was rotted through with communists back in the day. It spawned Israel’s deep state and legal system and they struggle with it to day, as the commies don’t go quietly. 10/7 was caused, in part by commies fighting Bibi and making Israel look vulnerable.
In short, communist rot is a problem. And Israel is not unique in that struggle.
You also have discussed in the article the same person and organization who ejects very clear anti-semites, and actions speak far louder than words to me.
So, no I’m not willing to say the organization was anti semitic. I think accusations like that are thrown about far too casually and lose their meaning as a result.
I will say the JBS was spot on on a lot of things.
JBS was also filled with cranks and nuts, along with some really smart people. And the occasional anti-Semite who sucked in.
The article is about this mixture. We need to look for their valid ideas and pick through the refuse to get the diamonds.
Rush Limbaugh checked out the JBS but decided against it because of the cranks and nuts. He was especially turned off by the notion that a "master conspiracy" centered in the Council on Foreign Relations, a New York City-based think tank, controls the international Left, including the governments of Russia and China. There are still some Birchers who believe that. However, the JBS today is fully aboard the Trump train.
Who cares if they correctly predicted a series of future events which if avoided could have saved the US billions of dollars, a destroyed culture and tens of thousands of lives......JBS are meanies and that is what really matters.
>> Who are the descendants of the Learned Elders?
I don’t understand your comment. Are you claiming the Learned Elders were actual historical persons?
>> Pay me a million bucks and I will gladly shill for my new masters.
Then we’re merely arguing about the price!
>> At least you didn’t accuse me of writing the Protocols.
Why would I? The authorship of that vile screed is well known.
There is nothing inherently wrong or anti-Semitic about believing in an "international master conspiracy," so long as it doesn't blame it on the Jews, Israel, or Zionism.
As to the "Trump train," it is split right down the middle between pro-Israel and anti-Israel forces. The Trump fans in the JBS are solidly in the anti-Israel faction.
If you go to their website right now you will see four people listed as speakers for their upcoming Leadership Conference on September 13. Two of these speakers are Matt Trewhella and Catherine Austin Fitts. Trewhella is a Rushdoonyan "Reconstructionist" who rejects a literal Kingdom of G-d ruled by Mashiach in favor of a world ruled by chrstians. Now chrstian countries are every bit as legitimate as moslem and b*ddhist countries, but there is no Millennium in this doctrine. The "Kingdom of G-d" is not a literal kingdom but a "spiritual" one ruled from Heaven through Reconstructionist Protestants. These people are always anti-Israel.
As for Fitts, she not only believes the Israelis attacked the poor inoffensive Ghazans for no reason whatsoever, she actually contributed money to the election campaign of Cynthia McKinney. And if you don't believe me, go to her website and see for yourself. She is also a new ager and an occultist.
This tells us all we need to know about the John Birch Society.
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