Posted on 08/08/2025 12:06:27 PM PDT by TBP
FDR was a socialist who made the depession worse, until it ended only by the onslaught of war.
His New Deal policy of crop destruction to prop-up farm prices was so absurd that even Stalin thought it was nuts.
Jackson wouldn't have started it. Were Jackson the President, the South likely wouldn't have seceded.
Also, by 1828, Jackson was pretty long in the tooth. I know he threatened to hang John Calhoun, but I doubt he would have been able to do it.
True. Jackson is my Pitical hero, like he is President Trump’s.
The ideals of Jacksonian Democracy were ALWAYS going to clash with the Skave Power, because the Jacksonians valued the Union and the Common man.
You are correct. Read Burt Folsom’s great book, “New Deal or Raw Deal?” He exposes how the slimy FDR used the tax system to pummel opponents, dished out money like candy to get reelected in certain districts, and was 100% liberal.
There is nothing at all any conservative should praise. He’s in my bottom 5.
The author doesn't help his credibility with that kind of talk ...
deep hostility to the New Deal
The "New Deal" was and is indistinguishable from Mussolini's Fascism.
FDR built up our nation and our people
FDR laid the foundation for the grossly bloated, excessively powerful, absolutely unaffordable Federal Leviathan under which we labor today.
FDR gave us withholding — or took it from us. It was to pay for the war. The Income Tax and the IRS were around before him.
FDR and what he did aren’t going away, but there’s no reason to make him a hero.
We could do with a little less Churchill. He was a great man, but he made a lot of bad decisions.
Jackson hated the British. He probably felt the Union had to endure just to hold back the British.
He probably felt that any attempt at disunion would be catastrophic because the British would try to come in and reclaim the pieces.
In 1828, this was still a serious, though waning possibility.
But Jackson hated the central bank too, and he did his best to kill it, which he did. But it didn't stay dead.
A lot of people think it is from that central bank that we developed the fed, and the deep state cabal of unelected bureaucrats who rule us now.
Yes
Actually, with FDR, you also get Harry Hopkins.
The Wagner-Connery National Labor Relations Act (or the Wagner Act, for short):
FDR also belatedly threw his support behind the Wagner-Connery National Labor Relations Act, which had been languishing in Congress. This legislation guaranteed labor unions the right to organize and bargain collectively—and established the National Labor Relations Board to enforce these rights. It also curbed employer use of "unfair labor practices," like blacklisting union organizers or unionized workers. Because of the legitimacy conferred on unions by the Wagner Act, the legislation came to be known as the "Magna Carta" for American labor unions. With this new political power, union membership swelled to more than 13 million Americans during World War II.
Unable or unwilling?
Professor Folsom is from my alma mater.
We need to start making it go away.
Truman kept the Communists from taking over France, Italy and Greece.
People don’t realize just how close the Communists were to taking France and Italy after the war.
Japan and The United States were on a collision course, ever since the US got Hawaii and The Philippines.
The guy was a terrible president.
Willkie supporters in 140 had buttons that said “No third termites.”
To which FDR’s people replied, “Better a third termer than a third rater.”
“Unable or unwilling?”
Question for the ages. I think Roosevelt was generally sympathetic to communism. I suspect Hopkins was an active agent of the Soviet Union, although there’s no proof if that like there is with many other Roosevelt admin officials. And, I think Stalin was a huge personality that overwhelmed everyone around him.
I can kind of understand lend-lease to Russia until the Russians reached Karkhov. At that point, the war was won and helping the Soviets occupy all of Eastern Europe and build the Soviet economy with lend-lease was a really, really stupid idea. Especially since it came at the expense of Eastern Europe and the Nationalist Chinese forces.
FDR is second only to segregationist Woodrow Wilson in screwing up this country, in my book.
And just slightly ahead of bH0 in doing everything necessary to unnecessarily extend an economic Depression.
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