Posted on 07/13/2025 5:43:41 AM PDT by george76
It is not competition that matters so much. It can’t even work if you are talking about solar and wind. Both are down too often, vulnerable to nature. Civilization runs 24/7. If you do not have 24/7 baseload you will kill .
I remember a time in the oil industry when coal bed methane was all the rage. When the subsidies and tax credits ended it fizzled into obscurity. Wind and solar will do the same.
The coming problem is that all that “cheap” energy will have to be replaced quickly by the alternative, natural gas. Brace yourselves for costs to climb once more as the real deficit producing cost of green energy comes home to roost. The only thing that made green energy “cheap” is that a chunk of the actual cost was shifted to the taxpayer in the form of debt and taxation instead of your electric bill.
One can’t help but think that wind and solar are going to have a much rougher time under a PDJT administration than under a Brib-em admin. What I find interesting is that globally, the only U.S company that is one of the top 10 IWT manufacturers is GE Vernova... and their stock over the past year has really rocketed.... https://tradingeconomics.com/gev:us ....and particularly since April. However (and this would need some deeper digging), it seems that it is the nuclear and gas side of their business that has been the reason for the steep rise.
As for the rest of the IWT manufacturers, it seems that most of them were moving sideways this past year (except for Vestas which saw a stock price drop in the 60% range). Of the rest of them that are mostly focused on wind, I’m thinking that there are some candidates in there that are worth taking a chance on shorting them....
The most accurate statement made on this thread.
Yes, stuck in the doldrums.
We’re actually in a cooler than average phase for the planet at the moment.
I have a couple links that for some reason do NOT want to show the image and I don’t know how to make them do that. They’ve worked plenty of times before. It may simply be my computer.
Anyway, here are the links to the graphs:
Global Temperature Trends From 2500 BC to 2040 AD
https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=AE3TifNlxqhJYXW1W70BvyVjrv0jRlH0fQ:1752424986015&q=Global+Temperature+Trends+From+2500+BC+to+2040+AD&udm=2#vhid=kxx6ZI_ZazcMlM&vssid=mosaic
And CO2 Levels vs Temperature:
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQWRuz9-Z4oRztvkWOE4mXPYRpqtIMeWCwZCw&s
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“..The sooner governments abandon this fantasy solution to the world’s energy needs, the better....”
Exactly.
It is/was insanity foisted upon the world by the insane.
They should have been occupying a rubber room in an asylum...NOT setting any form of a government’s large scale energy policies and directives. We’re paying a high price in more ways than one for their clueless, insane antics. Just ask the whales and dolphins.
IF one wants to put a solar panel on their roof and/or a windmill on their property to assist in meeting their personal household loads, go get the load calcs done, whatever permits, etc. and have at it. They get to pay for it all; no harm, no foul. But to try and meet the huge baseload energy needs of a modern society with this stuff is....well...INSANE.
They called it the doldrums.
Crews would also use buckets of water to wet the sails hoping to harness every little bit of wind.
The problem is they choose the “renewables” that are the most expensive, least efficient, unreliable, and just not good at scale.
If they were working on hydro, geothermal, and nuclear, they’d be much better off!
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