Posted on 02/16/2025 4:39:16 PM PST by kevcol
It would have been very good for the Allies war effort to have the voices of the Jews heard as they were being readied for slaughter and every step along the way before that. The Nazis took away their freedom of speech and even their guns. If the Jews had been well armed with strong gun ownership rights then it would have been better.
That broadcaster is nuts and stupid. Why do any officials waste time talking to such incompetence?
She went to journalism school. The irony
True, no argument there.
In college I had some in my friend group in journalism. It was one of the easiest schools to be in. I was graphics editor for the campus paper so I was around them a few years. They started partying Thursday night, thru Sunday. Lotsa drinking. They thought doing a 4 page paper over the weekend was a really difficult assignment. I was in engineering.
I think the only school that did less than them, was education majors.
At the risk of making people hate me - I will present a better version of Margaret Brennans argument.
Unlike her I am thinking of the popular attitudes that preceded Hitler or the Nazis. None of this was invented by those people, they just expressed what was already a popular set of ideas in a more extreme way, and they had organized “solutions”. We are talking the late period of the Industrial Revolution and post-Industrial Revolution, the 1880’s-1920’s.
Antisemitism in Germany and Austria became a popular, conscious idea with the rise of the popular press - think tabloids. And besides that the rise of popular political participation. People would go to hear lectures, etc., it was popular entertainment, which were accessible via streetcars and municipal railways.
In the earlier, guild craftsman-peasant agricultural world, at that level of society one simply did not get packaged ideas amplified and developed the way it was done later. This also explains the popularity of communism btw. If it had remained the sort of thing intellectuals argued about in coffee shops there would have been many fewer problems.
Antisemitism had popped up in municipal riots (pogroms) way back in medieval times, based on wild rumors spread by word of mouth, but it was not systematically developed until there was a popular press delivering a daily series of rabid essays.
That nazis we’re rightwing is one of the biggest lies of all time.
Her words were very halting and it was if she was just repeating, not coming from the heart.
Consider that, in order to go nuts with that sort of idea, one needs a a sort of reverbatory chamber to amplify and purify ideas. These days we call them “bubbles”, implying a zone where one can be locked away from a range of thought, but thats not quite right. The other effect of a bubble is a phenomenon of social dynamics, of amplification, repetition and purification, mostly conducted through public speech.
My BF in college (and still today) was a journalism major. At the beginning of one school year the other roommate and I were comparing text book purchases. He noted one of them (mine or his - can’t remember which) was a paperback versus hard cover. He said, “That’s and easy course. Any course with a soft cover text book is a piece of cake.”
Our other roommate - the Journalism major dumped his books out and there was this pile of ALL paperback books. One of the funniest things ever. We all burst out laughing.
She is really stupid. Amazing.
Before Hitler came to power, there were pretty much daily street slugfests between right-wing and left-wing groups.
When Hitler came to power, he put the Communist types into camps just as the Soviets put ‘reactionaries’ into camps.
The mass killings began with captured troops on the Eastern Front and was soon extended to Eastern European Jews.
When Germany declared war on the USA after Pearl Harbor, some Germans realized the war would end with German defeat.
In January 1942, the mass killing of captured troops and Eastern European Jews was extended to Western European Jews still within Nazi grasp.
There was hatred of Jews in Germany for centuries. It probably dated from the time of the Black Plague. This hatred exploded after millions of Germans were impoverished by the early 1920s currency collapse. Jewish shop owners and other business owners were thought to be prosperous and as a result were often despised.
As stated in “Mein Kampf”, Hitler also came to hate multi-ethnic societies from his impoverished time in Vienna. Hitler also believed Jews were associated with all the problems Germany had.
Bull!
She has proven herself deep state, anti American marxist loving, Trump is evil talking head.
No matter how many degrees she has, she’ll always be a constitutional hating degenerate !
I just sent this to CBS regarding the idiot Brennan:
How can you allow Margaret Brennan to be the face of CBS? She made an incredibly ignorant claim today to Sec. Marco Rubio that free speech in Nazi Germany caused the Holocaust! Nazi Germany was a totalitarian authoritarian dictatorship that hated Jews. Is she so ignorant of history to make such a foolish statement. She should never be allowed to represent CBS as long as she lives!
I had to use a search engine to find the complaint email page, be vigilant- it is there!
WIKI
The name (Danish: Danemordet, Massakren på Sankt Brictiusdag) refers to St. Brice, fifth-century Bishop of Tours, whose feast day is 13 November. After several decades of relative peace, Danish raids on English territory began again in earnest in the 980s, becoming markedly more serious in the early 990s. Following the Battle of Maldon in 991, Æthelred paid tribute, or Danegeld, to the Danish king. Æthelred married Emma of Normandy in 1002, daughter of Richard I of Normandy; her mother was a Dane named Gunnor, and their son became Edward the Confessor. Some Danes had arrived as traders and intermarried with the Anglo-Saxon population, and some settled in Wessex becoming farmers and were raising families in the Anglo-Saxon controlled areas of England. Meanwhile, Æthelred’s kingdom had been ravaged by Danish raids every year from 997 to 1001; in 1001 a Danish army rampaged across southern England, indiscriminately burning many towns and inflicting a series of defeats on Anglo-Saxon forces that had been raised to oppose them.
In 1002 Æthelred was told that the Danish men in his territory “would faithlessly take his life, and then all his councillors, and possess his kingdom afterwards”. In response, “the king gave an order to slay all the Danes that were in England.”
The massacre in Oxford was referred to by Æthelred in a royal charter of 1004 as “a most just extermination” of Danes who had settled and “sprung up in this island”. He goes on to proclaim it was with God’s aid he rebuilt St Frideswide’s Church (now Christ Church Cathedral):
For it is fully agreed that to all dwelling in this country it will be well known that, since a decree was sent out by me with the counsel of my leading men and magnates, to the effect that all the Danes who had sprung up in this island, sprouting like cockle amongst the wheat, were to be destroyed by a most just extermination, and thus this decree was to be put into effect even as far as death, those Danes who dwelt in the afore-mentioned town, striving to escape death, entered this sanctuary of Christ, having broken by force the doors and bolts, and resolved to make refuge and defence for themselves therein against the people of the town and the suburbs; but when all the people in pursuit strove, forced by necessity, to drive them out, and could not, they set fire to the planks and burnt, as it seems, this church with its ornaments and its books. Afterwards, with God’s aid, it was renewed by me.
The killing in Oxford almost exclusively targeted males of military age. Historian Levi Roach also notes that it is impossible to conclusively link the mass grave in Oxford and those elsewhere to St. Brice’s day, as there was regular sectarian violence across England during this period. That the Danelaw remained calm and content under Æthelred’s hegemony has been taken as evidence that the killings were local to certain areas at best. “Needless to say,” writes Ann Williams, “the decree was not aimed at the English of Scandinavian descent living in the eastern shires.” Only a few years after the massacre, Æthelred granted land to a Dane named Toti outside Oxford, and many Scandinavian figures remained at his court, demonstrating that the St Brice’s Day decree was not an order for a general extermination.
Some historians, such as Frank Stenton, have viewed the massacre as a political act which helped to provoke Sweyn’s invasion of 1003. Audrey MacDonald states the massacre eventually led to the accession of Cnut in 1016. Levi Roach states, “These purges bred suspicion and division at a critical moment, and in the end [Æthelred’s] death was soon followed by the conquest of England by the Danish ruler Cnut.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Brice‘s_Day_massacre
WIKI
The Sicilian Vespers (Italian: Vespri siciliani; Sicilian: Vespiri siciliani) was a successful rebellion on the island of Sicily that broke out at Easter 1282 against the rule of the French-born king Charles I of Anjou. Since taking control of the Kingdom of Sicily in 1266, the Angevin government had made itself unpopular with its exploitative policies and exclusion of native Sicilians from power.
Sparked by an incident in Palermo, the revolt quickly spread to the majority of Sicily. Within six weeks, approximately 13,000 French men and women were slain or expelled by the rebels, and the government of Charles lost control of the island.
According to Leonardo Bruni (1416), the Palermitans were holding a festival outside the city when the French came up to check for weapons, and on that pretext began to fondle the breasts of their women. This then began a riot. The French were attacked, first with rocks, then weapons, and all were killed. The news spread to other cities leading to revolt throughout Sicily. “By the time the furious anger at their insolence had drunk its fill of blood, the French had given up to the Sicilians not only their ill-gotten riches but their lives as well.”[citation needed]
After leaders were elected in Palermo, messengers spread word across the island for the rebels to strike before the French had time to organise resistance. In a fortnight the rebels gained control over most of the island, and within six weeks it was all under rebel control, except for Messina which was well fortified, and whose leading family, the Riso, remained faithful to Charles. But on 28 April it too broke into open revolt under the command of Captain of the People Alaimo da Lentini [it] and, most significantly, the islanders’ first act was to set fire to Charles’s fleet in the harbor. It is reported that upon hearing of the fleet’s destruction, King Charles exclaimed “Lord God, since it has pleased You to ruin my fortune, let me only go down in small steps.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicilian_Vespers
Sounds alot like our college campuses.
WIKI
The Nazi Party, officially the National Socialist German Workers’ Party (German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or NSDAP), was a far-right political party in Germany active between 1920 and 1945 that created and supported the ideology of Nazism.
Its precursor, the German Workers’ Party (Deutsche Arbeiterpartei; DAP), existed from 1919 to 1920.
The Nazi Party emerged from the extremist German nationalist (”Völkisch nationalist”), racist, and populist Freikorps paramilitary culture, which fought against communist uprisings in post–World War I Germany.
The party was created to draw workers away from communism and into völkisch nationalism.
Initially, Nazi political strategy focused on anti-big business, anti-bourgeoisie, and anti-capitalism, using disingenuous socialist rhetoric to gain the support of the lower middle class; it was later downplayed to gain the support of business leaders.
By the 1930s, the party’s main focus shifted to antisemitic and anti-Marxist themes.
The party had little popular support until the Great Depression, when worsening living standards and widespread unemployment drove Germans into political extremism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party
Well, this is what Joseph Goebbels said about the NSDAP....
“According to the idea of the NSDAP, we are the German Left. Nothing is more hateful to us than the right-wing national ownership block.”
The Weirmar Republic had extensive censorship laws and regulations. The suppression of speech (and arrest of various Nazis) almost certainly made things worse.
During the Nazi regime, they had total control of the press and hid the Holocaust pretty well.
In short, she’s completely wrong. And she could know this by reading Wikipedia. That’s the level of stupid and lazy and evil she is.
quotes:
On March 5, 1938, the SS officer in charge of forced Jewish emigration, Adolf Eichmann, was commissioned to assemble material to provide the chief of the Security Police (SIPO) Reinhard Heydrich with “a foreign policy solution as it had been negotiated between Poland and France,” i.e., the Madagascar Plan. Temporarily shelved in the wake of the war, the project was taken up again after the fall of France in the summer of 1940.
Eichmann prepared a detailed official report on the island of Madagascar and its “colonization” possibilities based on information gathered from the French Colonial Office. He added an evacuation plan calling for 4 million Jews to be shipped to Madagascar over a period of four years and also advocated the creation of a “police reserve” as a giant ghetto. The plan was to be financed by a special bank managing confiscated Jewish property and by contributions exacted from world Jewry.
The plan leaked out and was published in Italy in July 1940. In August 1940, the Third Reich officially endorsed the Madagascar Plan. Alarmed by the plan, the American Jewish Committee commissioned a special report, published in May 1941, that sought to demonstrate that Jews could not survive the conditions on the island. By that time, however, the Nazis were already well underway with a different “Final Solution” - the extermination program.
On February 10, 1942, only a few weeks after the Wannsee Conference, the Madagascar Plan was officially shelved and replaced in public policy statements with the lexicon of “evacuation to the East.”
Text of the Madagascar Proposal
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https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-madagascar-plan-2
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