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Candace Owens Attacks David Schwimmer's Jewish Ex-Wife In Private Messages Over Criticism Of Her... Defense Of Hitler.
PerezHilton ^ | July 18, 2024

Posted on 08/20/2024 4:46:58 PM PDT by Freeleesy

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To: Steve Van Doorn

I’m sorry.
I would prefer to agree and in any case I would prefer mutual respect.
The lie that Jews are subhuman is historic and continues to be widely accepted in Gaza to modern times. The behavior of both the terrorists and the people of Gaza illustrates this fact.
Any reference where the Jews disparage gentiles as subhuman is historic or persists only in fringe groups (giving the benefit of doubt that it persists at all).

The behavior of the two groups amply illustrates the difference. The Israelis have given up land to try and establish peace. There have been, I believe, 7 offers for a Palestinian state, none of which were accepted. Israel gives water, medical assistance and aid to Gaza not just during the war but on a continuing basis. It is unheard of to supply the enemy during war, and much of the aid is stolen by Hamas, the enemy.

In the recent past Palestinians crossed by the thousands daily to work in Israel. In 2022, the number of work permits from Gaza was raised to 17,000 with plans to further hike the number to 20,000. As of 2023, 150,000 Palestinians work in Israel.

Many Muslim live in Israel & are citizens. These are not the actions of a people who deny the humanity of Gaza people or Muslims. The lie in this war is that Israel has oppressed Palestinians and taken their land. The truth is that Palestinians/Hamas want to annihilate Jews.


121 posted on 08/23/2024 12:48:13 PM PDT by JayGalt (Fight! Fight! Fight!)
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To: JayGalt
said, "lie that Jews are subhuman is historic and continues to be widely accepted in Gaza to modern times"

I thought I said that:
"Given: Muhammad taught that there is nothing wrong to lie too a Kafir(none-Muslim which are literally pigs and apes. Qur'an (5:60 and 4:47))"

"Given they're part of the Cabal(ancient religion. NOT Judaism!)"
The Cabal(ancient religion) is a very small group of people. They need to "game" us(primarily the Jews of Israel)
Example: Giving them land knowing it will end up in Hamas(terrorist) hands before they gave the land away is playing a game with fire and they obviously knew it.
If you actually wanted peace then why not make previsions that prevented Hamas from gaining power? This seems fairly basic to me. Given they didn't even attempt to prevent Hamas from gaining power this was deception.
122 posted on 08/23/2024 1:09:31 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn
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To: Steve Van Doorn

I’m sorry but that bird won’t fly. Hamas was freely elected. You are suggesting Israel should have interfered in the election? If the people of Gaza had cared for peace they could have had a rich country with tourism and trade. It is no one’’s fault but theirs that instead they invested in tunnels and weapons.
Israel did not play the game of the bigotry of low expectations. They voluntarily tried to facilitate a better life for the people of Gaza. They expected nothing in return other than recognition that Israel will meet Gaza people more than half way on the road to a mutual peace.

PS I did not imply that you did not say “Muhammad taught that there is nothing wrong to lie too a Kafir(none-Muslim which are literally pigs and apes. Qur’an (5:60 and 4:47))” That was my point. Historically and continuing to the present.


123 posted on 08/23/2024 1:21:35 PM PDT by JayGalt (Fight! Fight! Fight!)
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To: JayGalt
said, "Hamas was freely elected."
OK... you accepted the terms of handing a country to known terrorist. I'm sorry but that just not logical.

said, "You are suggesting Israel should have interfered in the election?"
Of course it was their land. "If you want the land. This is the deal."
Countries do this all the time set up provisional governments until they can prove they can govern themselves. I don't think I need to show history of this.

You need to learn who actually runs this world. They "game" us. They don't dictate (though many would like to.) It's not the "jews." It's not the bankers. It's very powerful families. Best word for it for normies is the criminal Mobs (all tied to what they believe is their origin. They don't always get along with one another)
124 posted on 08/23/2024 1:46:27 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Israel did not own the country so they could not hand it over, they gave land. What is the culpability of the nations that pushed Jordanians to move there to try & oust Israel? There were already terror attacks. Israel could not have controlled the strip or demanded it control itself in the way you are suggesting.
Without malice I ask what point do you see in continuing this particular conversation? IMO it is better to agree to disagree.


125 posted on 08/23/2024 1:53:23 PM PDT by JayGalt (Fight! Fight! Fight!)
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To: JayGalt
Israel captured and occupied the Gaza Strip in 1967
until they turned it over to known terrorist.
It's really that simple.
126 posted on 08/23/2024 2:04:08 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Not to many of us but you are entitled to your beliefs. I cannot agree with your practice of presenting a one sided view of a situation as the only true view. I consider this conversation ended.


127 posted on 08/23/2024 2:41:32 PM PDT by JayGalt (Fight! Fight! Fight!)
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To: JayGalt
I said, "Israel captured and occupied the Gaza Strip in 1967
until they turned it over to known terrorist."


Jay said, " you are entitled to your beliefs. I cannot agree "

Ok. How would you word it in a couple sentences?
128 posted on 08/23/2024 10:49:01 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn
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To: JayGalt
Murder rate in State of Palestine
(Can't find Just Gaza from Graph est: 400 per year between 2000-2014 (pop:5.5M):
0.07 per 1000
Murder rate in Chicago(2023):
0.23 per 1000
Sources:
http://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/assets/4756436/IP_conflict_deaths_total.png
https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/il/chicago/crime
129 posted on 08/23/2024 11:24:36 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn
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To: Steve Van Doorn

I would word it thusly. I have asked you to desist and I will report you to the moderator if you persist. This was your second chance at a civil diiscussion and again you have failed.


130 posted on 08/24/2024 4:20:55 AM PDT by JayGalt (Fight! Fight! Fight!)
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To: cowboyusa

Ben Shapiro is a Fusion Conservative


131 posted on 08/26/2024 4:33:12 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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