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So, You Wanna Have A Trucker Boycott...
self | J. Johnson

Posted on 02/19/2024 5:32:35 AM PST by jimjohn

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To: jimjohn

Like any “system” that includes moving items through a process, if you remove just a few touch points it will screw up the time it takes to complete.

For example, if you remove a single cashier from the grocery store on the day before Thanksgiving...the lines will get a lot longer.

So, with ALL of the trucks going into NYC on any given day if just a small percent of them stop rolling...it will screw up the system dramatically.

Of course, the same action would clear up the highways around the city. THAT is what most people would see right away.


21 posted on 02/19/2024 6:13:06 AM PST by Vermont Lt (Don’t vote for anyone over 70 years old. Get rid of the geriatric politicians.)
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To: jimjohn

There wont be enough boycotting drivers to make a difference. Any load refused will be given to a foreigner or woke scab.


22 posted on 02/19/2024 6:13:42 AM PST by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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To: jimjohn

Something pointed out in the article....
If they can do this to a former President, they can do it to you too.


23 posted on 02/19/2024 6:16:09 AM PST by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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To: Wilderness Conservative

So your option is not even try.

Got any other suggestions on how to fix things in this country?

Or are you just going to keep raining on everyone’s parade?


24 posted on 02/19/2024 6:18:31 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: farmguy

I’ve been boycotting things from NY for a long time now.
It’s been so long that I forgot why, but I still make a conscious effort to check place of origin on things I buy


25 posted on 02/19/2024 6:20:41 AM PST by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
One fact he left out is that the instigator of the boycott points out that getting into or out of NYC is a pain in the behind, on a good day, in a truck.

The author points out that many of the truck depots servicing NYC aren't actually in NYC, but just outside - does that have any impact on how willing truckers will be to boycott?

I'll be interested to see how this goes - so many of the people gloating about Trump's case on MSNBC and NPR have no idea how economies or the real estate market work, and view professions like trucking with absolute contempt. An effective trucker boycott of NYC would be a real wake-up call for the lotus eaters.
26 posted on 02/19/2024 6:21:07 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Wilderness Conservative

Oh...
You’re one of those...
Just 1 truck has an effect, though probably not really felt.
Dozens have the same effect.
Hundreds have a small effect.
Thousands, now were rolling...
But one person like you can stop this thing dead.
Go away


27 posted on 02/19/2024 6:24:02 AM PST by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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To: jimjohn
"2. Stop telling folks it won’t work even before it gets started; that is, unless you have a better idea (we’re all ears). Instead, how about doing what we can to support the effort, and/or asking what it would take to make it a success."

I might change to whom #2 is directed. IMHO, the naysyaers come in two categories:
1. The true Eeyores who think nothing works, there is no hope, we're all doomed, and all around masochists who I suspect aren't someone to depend on. For anything.
2. The operatives/Leftists, who try to discourage peoole from taking action. These are the true scumbags of humanity. Unlike the first category, they are the parasites who like a leech or mosquito, try to numb their prospective host to avoid getting swatted/squashed. Their biggest fear is that taking action COULD work.

Advice to should be to IGNORE the naysayers (because their intent is to hinder any effort) while following the second part of #2 of your post.

28 posted on 02/19/2024 6:24:59 AM PST by Tench_Coxe (The woke were surprised by the reaction to the Bud Light fiasco. May there be many more surprises)
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To: BigEdLB

I don’t usually read pieces this long all the way through, but I read this.
And I liked it.
And I’ll pass it on if that’s ok.


29 posted on 02/19/2024 6:37:12 AM PST by _longranger81
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To: BigEdLB

“Somebody talks a lot, and no one wants to read his 2000 word punishment essay. No matter what side he is on.”

Just because an essay has a lot of substance doesn’t mean it’s substantive. He should try going for wit and it’s brevity.


30 posted on 02/19/2024 6:38:21 AM PST by bluescape
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To: Big E

I think it can. However, you identified a good point!

Hypothetically, let’s model this similarly to the Berlin blockade. The US (primarily) was able to supply Berlin (pop est 2.25 million) via air transport. I can’t see that happening in NYC. Now the product mix is different today vs. Berlin as IIRC, we even had to transport coal into Berlin for energy generation. In the case of NYC, roads are open and you won’t have hostile aircraft harassing any inbound cargo planes.

But in NYC, there is a very large population (pop est 8.5 million) increasing due to the illegals, that generates a growing demand for goods. That requires a growing demand for transportation to deliver those goods. I’m making the assumption that truck transportation into the city is reasonably close to full loads. Even if the amount of transportation due to the boycott just flatlines, net supply should decrease.

Regarding your correct comment regarding regional traffic, if...someone wanted to implement the boycott, they would focus more on the distribution centers in the region that then supply NYC. Restrict deliveries to those distribution centers, and even if all the regional drivers are still working, they will run out of goods to deliver.

My 1 1/2 cents,


31 posted on 02/19/2024 6:44:57 AM PST by HombreSecreto (The life of a repo man is always intense)
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To: usafa92

“You may have several hundred truckers participate, and still nobody will notice.”

If those “several hundred truckers” are involved with

Food
Fuel
Water treatment chemicals

then people will notice. It will take a few days, but they’ll notice.


32 posted on 02/19/2024 7:02:43 AM PST by castlebrew (Gun Control means hitting where you're aiming!))
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To: jimjohn

I think we can all pitch in by boycotting NYC in our own lives. Don’t travel there.


33 posted on 02/19/2024 7:03:51 AM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: Tench_Coxe

NY City probably has closer to a 3 day supply of fresh food than two weeks. Computers have made just in time delivery a real thing and real estate prices have made storage a real issue for smaller businesses. I do not know if this thing will catch on, but it would not take long for the impact to be felt if even 15-20% of truckers got involved. A better strategy than a full boycott would be to just Botox things up with no Monday Friday deliveries. You might get more truckers involved if they did not have to cut their own noses off.


34 posted on 02/19/2024 7:04:32 AM PST by your other brother
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To: Skul

“Everyone should boycott NYC and New York State in any way possible. Refuse that contemptable state any money to the best of your ability. Anyone can do that.”

Absolutely... Don’t do business with any company in NYC. The businesses will immediately put pressure on lawmakers to correct this injustice.


35 posted on 02/19/2024 7:10:46 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: farmguy

“We shouldn’t put it all on the truckers.
We should boycott new york in our own personal business.

I buy a lot online, but I try to never buy anything from a new york (or california) seller.”

Absolutely.


36 posted on 02/19/2024 7:11:38 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: your other brother; Tench_Coxe

2 weeks vs 3 days: My suspicion is that they would use other means to pull in resources from outside the area after the ‘just in time stuff’ ran out. Emergency rail was my first thought. I should have emphasized a key line out of the article:

“...perception is reality, and they already have a preconceived notion about us. Let’s use both to our advantage...”

Think about that.

;-)


37 posted on 02/19/2024 7:13:11 AM PST by jimjohn (We're at war, people. Start acting like it.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

My company is involved daily in the trucking of bulk materials around the country. NYC/NJ is already one of the most expensive places to deliver into on the east coast.
This is because all the major highways going in there are typically toll roads.

In addition, the traffic is terrible. Long haul truck drivers are paid by the mile. Not by the hour. Therefore, If it takes an extra 4 half day to deliver into the NYC/Newark area they charge for this.

Even picking up at the ports in NJ is more expensive. We purchase materials FOB the port. There is very little products sent into Newark ports that does not stay in the NYC metro area. This is because of the logistical nightmare of going into and out of these ports. Meaning you will pay an extra $1/mile shipping into or out of these ports.

Hence, IF you want to bring a product into the New England market the manufacturer will bring it into New Haven, CT.
IF you want to bring a product into the mid Atlantic market you will ship it into Baltimore, Wilmington(DE), or Philadelphia.

So, this effort will just remove more truckers from going into to NYC. However, IF the current rate going in there is $3.00/mile, then the rate will go up to $3.50 or $4.00 per mile. It just means everything going into NYC will cost more. However, it will not be double.


38 posted on 02/19/2024 7:16:29 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: Wilderness Conservative

That’s what I’ve heard by aquaintances of mine who drive truck. Trucking companies hiring unqualified drivers - from other countries.


39 posted on 02/19/2024 7:18:54 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America.)
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To: jimjohn

Go to any truckstop, right now, on any major interstate system in this country. Watch the truckers pile out of their trucks while they’re on the fuel pumps. 85% are for nationals, and most don’t even speak English. Truck drivers in this country are not on board with any conservative anti-immigrant movement. Half of all truck drivers do not even speak basic English. It’s much worse near major cities. When I get pushback on these points, it’s always from some farmer in Iowa who goes to a little truckstop off of a two-lane highway near his town we’re all his buddies still drive Smokey and the bandit no longer exists people.


40 posted on 02/19/2024 7:21:40 AM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Strange that a man with his wealth would have to resort to prostitution.)
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