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OPINION: Majority of Americans Think Trump Committed Crimes - That's a Problem
Red State ^ | 08/28/2023 | Matt Dempsey

Posted on 08/28/2023 10:17:26 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: dforest

Erickson turd piles still in every corner


61 posted on 08/29/2023 7:01:54 AM PDT by wardaddy (Why so many nevertrumpers with early sign ups and no posting history till now? Zot them PTB)
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To: SeekAndFind

No - Red State actually is a never-Trump rag, like their never-Trump founder.

“Oh look, a bad Trump poll.”


62 posted on 08/29/2023 7:45:59 AM PDT by AAABEST ( NY/DC/CA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: mabarker1

Yes. Large enough for King George (uh, Biden) to read without his spectacles.


63 posted on 08/29/2023 8:49:20 AM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: SeekAndFind
A new poll released on Saturday shows that 62 percent of Americans think former President Trump "committed a crime."

A new poll released on Saturday shows the successful effects of psyops by the media.

The media has removed the word "alleged" for Trump's so called crimes.

The media's full court press of anything Trump bombards the public with propaganda about accusations, indictments, and other negatives, while ignoring real crimes by the Biden family via hundreds of minutes about Trump and next to nothing about Biden.

The 62 percent of Americans may or may not realize that they have been had.

What do you make of that?

64 posted on 08/29/2023 8:58:32 AM PDT by olezip
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe people assume that everyone in politics (and every billionaire) has committed a crime at some time or other.

They don’t necessarily that a particular politican is guilty of the crimes he or she is indicted for (or even that those things are crimes).

Now ask about Biden.


65 posted on 08/29/2023 9:05:53 AM PDT by x
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To: SeekAndFind

What up with Asians?

Do they hate Trump that much, or do they just assume everybody in politics is a crook?


66 posted on 08/29/2023 9:07:08 AM PDT by x
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; cardinal4; ...
NeverTrumpin' poll, same credibility as the 2020 election.

67 posted on 08/29/2023 9:44:39 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: SunkenCiv

No it isn’t a problem. What if a majority of people believe that New York City, or more to the point, G-d, does not exist. Would that change facts?


68 posted on 08/29/2023 10:40:25 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. Child in need of a CGM system. https://gofund.me/6452dbf1. )
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To: Eleutheria5

Wait a sec... are you claiming that *reality* isn’t up for a vote?!? /jk


69 posted on 08/29/2023 10:43:03 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: wardaddy; TakebackGOP; dforest

RedState is owned by Salem Media, as are a lot of formerly independent conservative publications and websites.

Eric Erickson was just one of the many GOPe hacks and neocons which Salem has offered up as conservatives; not all of us would agree.

Salem got its start with a radio station in here in L.A., and its idea of conservative included Michael Medved and Hugh Hewitt. I’m pretty sure that some of its personnel were outside advisors to Dubya and probably helped write his speeches.

“Presidential Candidate” Larry Elder has a strong Salem connection, he began as a caller to Dennis Prager’s Salem radio program. Larry was a libertarian who made sure of that distinction. Prager used to remind listeners that he himself is a 1960s Bobby Kennedy liberal. Unsurprisingly both are Bush Republicans posing as conservatives. Ain’t politics grand.


70 posted on 08/29/2023 6:51:50 PM PDT by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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To: Pelham

I’m not a Praeger fan
Neocon

Yes I’m stereotyping

Sometimes generalizations are more accurate than not and that sure fits here

Of course goes without saying we have to work with them at times


71 posted on 08/30/2023 8:05:26 AM PDT by wardaddy (Why so many nevertrumpers with early sign ups and no posting history till now? Zot them PTB)
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To: wardaddy

“I’m not a Praeger fan. Neocon”

Prager is a late 1960s era liberal. For a long time on his local LA radio show he would tell callers that. A Gene McCarthy, Robert Kennedy Democrat. Anticommunist. Big Government. Pro Affirmative Action for Civil Rights. Liberal Internationalism.

When Reagan ran for President that crowd had “Second Thoughts” about Carter era weak foreign policy (some motivated by worry over Israel). So they began calling themselves neoconservatives and moved to the Republican party. And in true Trotskyite fashion (that’s the roots of the older ones) they turned their guns on actual conservatives (”racists! xenophobes!”) and staged a coup of sorts.

Clyde Wilson wrote a very funny line about what has occurred:

“The offensives of radicalism have driven vast herds of liberals across the border into our territories. These refugees now speak in our name, but the language they speak is the same one they always spoke. We have grown familiar with it, have learned to tolerate it, but it is tolerable only by contrast to the harsh syllables of the barbarians over the border. It contains no words for the things that we value. Our estate has been taken over by an impostor, just as we were about to inherit.”

That’s part of a longer 1986 Clyde Wilson essay that’s well worth reading.

https://theimaginativeconservative.org/2017/05/conservative-intellectual-clyde-wilson.html

“Who Is the Conservative Intellectual?”


72 posted on 08/30/2023 11:54:57 AM PDT by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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To: Pelham

Reagan brought all the “Scoop Jackson Democrats” over to the Republican Party.


73 posted on 08/30/2023 11:56:10 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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“Reagan brought all the “Scoop Jackson Democrats” over to the Republican Party.”

They had lost out to the McGovern and Carter wing of their own party. Reagan’s “peace through strength” position was closer to their own.

But outside of military policy they may not have had anything in common with Reagan conservatives. Which would have been fine with the Bush wing who could find common ground.


74 posted on 08/30/2023 12:28:59 PM PDT by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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