Posted on 07/30/2023 10:29:22 AM PDT by John Semmens
You have obviously made up your mind and only trust sources like The Desert Review (highly questionable site promoting conspiracy theories) and News Rescue (based in Nigeria). So that’s that. Case closed.
Thank you at least for your civility. By the way, attacking the messenger when you can’t refute the message is known as the genetic fallacy.
I provided a refutation in my earlier post. You were not interested in considering it. Why waste time going over the same ground with someone who has made up his mind and will not consider other possibilities? Trump stopped talking about ivermectin after it became clear it didn’t help as hoped. Lots of doctors were trying in the early days in hopes itvwluld help, but gave up on it when it didnt. Again, I had hopes it was effective at first. I continued sitting on the fence about it for a long time, waited for large-scale studies to come out. When MABs became available, which really do work like a charm, I lost interest in it.
Why do *you* think the Covid death rate is, according to available figures, so much lower in Nigeria? If you think it’s because of Ivermectin, well, it’s not. I already addressed that here:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4113563/posts?page=76#76
(See links in that post.)
While ESPEN AFRO (formerly APOC) does distribute ivermectin in high-risk areas where river blindness or elephantiasis is endemic, it’s only a once or twice per year thing. Nigerians don’t eat ivermectin all the time, as some Americans enamored of ivermectin seem to believe. As for worms, it’s a one and done deal with ivermectin.
I provided the ESPEN AFRO distribution maps, etc., in my posts back then. As you can see from the maps I posted, there is no correlation between ivermectin distribution and Covid death rates.
The thing is, no matter how much information you provide to a True Believer in ivermectin, they will still believe it prevents or cures Covid, all by its lonesome. There is no point in trying to reason with True Believers. I see no point in discussing it further with you. No offense intended. I just see no point in either of us wasting our time on this.
There are over a million medical doctors in the US. If you believe practically all of them just stopped trying ivermectin even though it really worked, then that’s what you believe. As for the handful of doctors, like the bunch at Frontline, who carried on with it, they made quite a profit from it.
“You are the only person I’ve seen or heard make those statements.”
Probably because he’s one of the few doctors here who will risk posting something that might ignite the hyena pack.
Brave man. I wish more doctors would be as brave.
I chatted with a few docs here early in the pandemic. They stay off of the vaccine threads. When you see the hyena pack of crackpots descend on the ones who do post it’s easy to see why few want to.
Totally understand. Thanks.
If I may ask, what are MABs?
Monoclonal antibodies.
You had to get them in the early stage (I think within ten days?) and before your O2 dipped below 92 (or was it 95?), but they worked like magic for my family members who got the Delta strain. They were administered for free, and locations where you could get them were posted on a government website, but for some reason lots of people didn’t seem to know about them.
I learned about them here on FR from JimNoble and other good doctors and so glad I did, as I could tell my family members about them — they had not heard of them before. Might have saved their lives and/or health. I am so grateful to these doctors.
I second what Pelham wrote. Most doctors here do keep quiet and I don’t blame them and won’t name names. The hyena pack is incredibly vicious. I will always be grateful to the ones who posted here about the monoclonal antibodies, for sure!
After Omicron became dominant, they were no longer available, as far as I know, but Omicron is mild, so no biggie.
Ok, I did hear of that but by the time I caught Covid in Feb 2022, they were no longer available where I live (central Indiana). There were many medical offices that did administer them but suddenly they all dropped it.
When I got Covid, I also had pneumonia so I was hospitalized for 6 days. Oh, and I also had a cracked rib from falling in the parking lot of my work place. I was a mess. Luckily they let a co-worker bring me my CPAP machine so I could use it and it helped keep my lungs inflated and yes, I had to have an O2 level of 92 or above before they would discharge me. They also said it helped me cuz if Covid accumulated in any part of my lungs for more than 2 hours that my lungs could become damaged. I also had to roll from side to side every two hours, and they checked on me every four hours.
It's not an experience I want to go through again, but now I suffer from Long Covid and it forced me to have to retire April of this year, and I don't see any remedies for it on the horizon. It's still too new and my doctors don't have a clue on how to treat it. So it definitely took the wind out of my sails. Luckily I am 62 so I get my SS and I'm applying for a disability cuz of the Long Covid. We'll see what happens.
Thanks for your kind words.
I’m so sorry you got Covid, then Long Covid. Ugh, that really stinks. It sounds like you had quite a rough time of it. Yikes!
Yes, after the newer Covid variants came along, the monoclonal antibodies were no longer effective and therefore no longer used. They worked very well for the original Alpha and for Delta, but then along came the others and Omicron. Corona viruses just love to mutate. And that’s good, as although they usually become more contagious, they also become less virulent. But, sadly, it also means vaccines (and monoclonal antibodies) become less and less effective.
I had a rotten (and scary) case of the original Alpha in February 2020, and have not felt quite the same since, but I don’t think I have long Covid. Again, I am so very sorry you have Long Covid. It looks like lots of clinical trials starting up to find a treatment for it, and I certainly hope there will be something that can help you:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/first-long-covid-treatment-clinical-trial-nih/
Yeah this hasn't been easy. I had planned on not retiring until 2025, but the Long Covid made it necessary to retire this year. I couldn't put in a full days work and was basically working part-time from November 2022 until my retirement in April 2023.
I have many of the symptoms mentioned in that article:
1). extreme, chronic fatigue
2). post-exertional malaise (debilitating fatigue that gets worse after physical or mental activity)
3). brain fog
4). dizziness
5). loss of smell or taste
Along with nausea and insomnia. And yeah, this will mostly severely disrupt my life for quite some time to come.
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