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Putin’s warning on the F-16’s
Dances with Bears ^ | June 17th 23 | John Helmet

Posted on 06/18/2023 2:52:52 PM PDT by delta7

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To: delta7
Should the US escalate and make a big mistake with the F-16’s, the airfields and all supporting equipment will be taken out ( as stated, “ in three minutes”) no doubt by Kinzhals

Do you really believe the nonsense you post or is it just what is on the list your boss gives you?

Russia hasn't been able to take out the airfields in the Ukraine since the start of the war. Their top special forces group that landed at Hostomel Airport got slaughtered.

So far, the vast majority of Kinzhals launched since the Patriot missile batteries arrived have been shot down.

Putin's recent speeches sound like Fetterman or Biden speaking in Russian. He seems uninformed and kept in the dark by yes-men afraid to tell him his military is failing.

At the moment Russia's army can't even keep its command centers and ammunition depos 50 kilometers from the front line in one piece.

81 posted on 06/18/2023 8:06:35 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: BobL; eyeamok

“Vicky Nuland’s War”
not the movie

-fJRoberts-


82 posted on 06/18/2023 10:42:18 PM PDT by A strike ("The worse, the better."- Lenin (& Schwab & Soros)
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To: Sarcazmo

God save the Queen man.


83 posted on 06/18/2023 10:55:23 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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To: DesertRhino

No they would not have.


84 posted on 06/19/2023 2:35:16 AM PDT by desertsolitaire ( )
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To: Alas Babylon!

Vietnam, where we sent 2 1/2 million men, responsible for millions of deaths, destroyed 3 countries for a decade, all in an attempt to prevent the first domino from falling 10,000 miles away? You jingoistic neocons get completely beside yourselves when the greatest offensive behemoth the world has ever seen is preaching forced regime change on the Russian border, 300 miles from Moscow and the Russians take steps to stop the 17th and final domino from falling. Incredible to behold.


85 posted on 06/19/2023 3:40:54 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: delta7

Well, I guess that means they can send F-15 and F/A-18 and A-10’s, they have had at least 1200 of those stored in Arizona before the war started.
See Vlad, no F-16’s! Seriously, Vlad should have prepared to deal with large numbers of F-16’s last year. Everyone saw this coming if the war dragged on. F-16 will be lost, probably in generous numbers with ground attack. Yet, with several hundred operating, Russian trenches become napalm traps. Then it’s open ground mechanized with Ukraine air superiority and western tanks.

Once again, stupid war with stupid prizes. Perhaps Biden is to senile, and Vlad to stubborn, and Soros to evil, to figure out something better.


86 posted on 06/19/2023 4:01:42 AM PDT by Pete Dovgan
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To: DesertRhino

That having been said, we seem to neck deep in it now per our leadership. Would founding Fathers have sought to extricate our country or doubled down on the reckless path we are on?


87 posted on 06/19/2023 5:10:12 AM PDT by desertsolitaire ( )
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To: MinorityRepublican

You are correct indeed about the shifting demographics there. I think the only reason the US is positive for population increase is the wholesale stampede across our open Southern border. Perhaps this whole Ukraine conflict will merely accelerate Russia’s inevitable decline into irrelevance as a conventional military power due to demographics. And, will they continue to be able to afford keeping their nukes serviced and operable? Perhaps have to sell some of them to keep the others up and running?


88 posted on 06/19/2023 5:14:27 AM PDT by desertsolitaire ( )
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To: dfwgator
There are no good guys in the world these days.

It is so stunning how few see that. How these people can look at the way we are governed and way the media propagandizes and even complain about that on one thread, and then believe our government is good and wholesome on another thread is uncanny.

People! Your government has called all of you conservatives "terrorists"! Yet, we wave that flag, vote, and blog like nothing is wrong. By all means, believe the government won't lie to you about this on-going conflict. They are protecting the "Big Guy", the same one who wants to put you into camps.

89 posted on 06/19/2023 5:44:33 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: hardspunned

I heard the same talk from the Eugene McCarthy and McGovern Left back in the day. Where’s your protest sign?

You are a NeoLeftist. Neither USA nor NATO is fighting in Ukraine.


90 posted on 06/19/2023 6:13:59 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Check my tagline. I was a bloody Bushite neocon too back in the day. Now I no longer follow a MIC led bunch of warmongers starting unprovoked proxy wars to make the world safe for your big guy and Raytheon. Thank you for the compliment, both Trump and I are solid, America First peaceniks when it comes to starting WWIII over Donbas.


91 posted on 06/19/2023 6:22:50 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: hardspunned

Well thank you for your service. Bush fooled me, too. In the end, there were no WMD in Iraq and removing Saddam only made things much, much worse. He was keeping a lid on the even worst crazies. But we had to learn that, no?

But then your overly emotional and angry insulting response to me sounds straight out of the Left’s playbook. Am I allowed to disagree with you without you acting like a child and insulting me? Dial it back. Yet you continue with the insults. Biden is not my Big Guy, nor Raytheon. By the way, I was stationed at a Raytheon project back in the early 80s (Pave Paws). Stop with the slander! I just disagree with you. We’re allies on this site. Trump 2024!

I do not support a US war with anyone. But the USA is not fighting. The Russians and Ukrainians are.

I’ll say it again. The war belongs to those fighting it. Our supplying arms to a party in the war is not the first time this or any other nation has done so. We started giving arms to Latin Americans in the early 19h Century. Should Spain have threatened us?

This thread started because Putin says he will attack NATO bases if Ukraine gets F-16s. I take offense when anyone threatens my fellow servicemen.

Ho Chi Mihn got free Mig-21s from Russian speakers back then that went on to kill Americans. We didn’t threaten Russian over that. Regardless of Putin’s threats, a precedent was started by Russian speakers way back then.


92 posted on 06/19/2023 6:49:01 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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To: delta7

NATO did not expand. Countries freely joined NATO and pissants like you and Putin hate that Russia has no say in it.

Too bad. Die angry.


93 posted on 06/19/2023 6:55:41 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: 353FMG

Correct. The president threatened American citizens with F-15s and nukes. He did this over the constitutional right to bear arms.


94 posted on 06/19/2023 7:10:23 AM PDT by wgmalabama (Censored !)
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To: Sarcazmo

Bill Gates already paid WHO make this demand and the Sniffy Joe team is already working on that.

I mean, I guess its “worse” in that it goes in the books as two losses but that seems a difference without distinction all things considered.


95 posted on 06/19/2023 7:42:24 AM PDT by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servavevnts.)
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To: beethovenfan

That’s right. I hope their arrogance gets painfully shoved up where the sun don’t shine.


96 posted on 06/19/2023 11:22:03 AM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: MeganC

Too bad. Die angry.
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No anger, just affirmation the US does not belong there. I will however not shed any tears when NATO falls apart, maybe the US will learn a harsh lesson that our Founding Fathers stated about getting involved in foreign wars.

Ukraine is treated like our 51st state, they have received more money than 16 of our smallest States combined- time we take care of Americans- this Ukrainian welfare scheme is draining and weakening us. The longer this graft and corruption scheme lasts, the quicker it becomes apparent.


97 posted on 06/19/2023 12:05:24 PM PDT by delta7
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To: Alas Babylon!

Geez, spare me the next chapter. As I said, this CF eventually gets escalated when Russia starts killing large numbers of NATO personnel. You can continue the administration line or think for yourself. You can also take all that mindless ranting and annoy someone else with it.


98 posted on 06/19/2023 4:50:52 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: hardspunned

Let’s see if I can post invective (insulting, abusive, or highly critical language) like you do...

Spare me your typical Leftist thoughts, you angry, impulsive child.

You wanna see a CF? Look in the mirror.

You hate this country and love Russia. I get it now.

You can continue following Putin or think for yourself.

You should take your mindless rantings for Russia and annoy someone else with it.


99 posted on 06/19/2023 7:00:54 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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To: wgmalabama

Probably ruined his day when no one showed up to fight him.


100 posted on 06/20/2023 4:26:18 PM PDT by 353FMG (Secretly practicing my Putin swagger..)
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