Posted on 06/18/2023 2:52:52 PM PDT by delta7
Say hi to NATO Finland!
How would we respond if Russia put military and missiles into Mexico?
Did the freely elected government of Mexico seek to join an alliance with Russia?
No they did not.
We have very good relations with Latin American countries.
It is too bad that so many of their people want to sneak in here to enjoy the "La Dolce Viva", but we need to have some border security like other countries. The situation is totally different here than Latin America. They don't fear us like the Eastern Europeans fear Russia. On the contrary, they want to join us, or at least come here and make out financially.
NATO membership is asked by the host country. It is not a bunch of countries in the thrall of the USA. Members join freely. Even so, all NATO countries have to agree. Up to right now, Turkey is saying no to Sweden membership, so Sweden is not part of NATO.
Why do the Russian get to decide who joins a defensive alliance?
But as I said, Finland's admission to NATO brings a thousand mile long NATO border to Russia.
Russia doesn’t have the balls to start a war with NATO.
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As they have been skillfully demonstrating. However, if NATO escalates and starts a war by putting boots on the ground, Vlad will finish it, once and for all.
Vlad has had it with NATO expansion to his borders. Do realize, It is a life and death situation for the Russian people.
We can nuke him too lol. Seriously, though. Hopefully, the war will end so we can save lives.
The Russians will seek to annex the Baltics as soon as they get an opportunity to do so.
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Your sources? Emotions will get you in trouble.Prior to the Ukie war, all parties enjoyed excellent trade relations, commerce, cheap energy, etc…since the 90’s. It appears you have been infected with the Democrat’s Dreaded Russian Hysteria Syndrome….there is a cure, stop listening to western MSM.
They want to enslave Eastern Europe like they did back in the Soviet Union.
The Russian Empire? The Soviet Union? Putin was a KGB Agent? He said he wanted to bring back glory to Russia?
There's a lot of Russian trolls in this forum. I recognize that.
Massive killing of Americans, Australians, South Koreans and above all the innocents of South Vietnam, who had their nation robbed and people massacred by Communist ideology.
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And? The outcome, the US pulled out and abandoned them…after senile Joe’s Afghanistan debacle, I fully expect the same with Ukraine.
Nah. Ukraine is fighting for the survival of their nation. We were trying to westernize Afghanistan so of course we lost that war.
Not looking good for the Ukies last night, more horrendous losses. Video confirmation here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKjfANudnZA At about 5:00 mark. Much more video confirmation surfacing ( not on western MSM) as we speak.
That's the reality of a war like this one. It didn't look too good for the Union either after the Battle of Chancellorsville. The Confederates won that skirmish and we all know they didn't win the war.
AND...
That was awful, and to our nations great shame.
I joined the military right after the Communist takeover in 1975, as soon as I graduated high school. While I was delayed enlistment I started a high school campaign to elect Ronald Reagan. I was of course opposed by most of the school age bleeding hearts and especially teachers, but so be it. There are some of us who gave a crap, despite what the long hared, communist loving protesters and democrats wanted.
Biden can’t pull out, because he isn’t in or even foolish enough to fight in the first place.
Neither the USA nor NATO is fighting in Ukraine. Just like the Russians weren’t fighting in Vietnam. The war is being fought by a real, actual country, Ukraine, who has been invaded and brutalized by a bigger country, Russia.
That stops, the Russians leave, and the war is over.
I think that's the ultimate outcome here. But we don't know how long it'll take. And how. The Ukrainians may need a lot more help than they're getting from NATO at this point.
That stops, the Russians leave, and the war is over.
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You believe in Unicorns? I have news for you, Vlad isn’t leaving his provinces, ever. He is effectively demilitarizing the Ukies, and already has deenergized, deindustrialized, and destroyed much of their infrastructure.
The Ukies are a 100 percent welfare state. They are spent.
I can only speak for myself.
I don't think there are any good guys here.
The best solution has always been to bring the sides together and negotiate a peace that both are willing to accept. They don't have to love it, but they have to be willing to accept it.
I think that Putin realizes that the F-16s would put Russia at a serious disadvantage.
Disagree. Putin will eventually go the way that dictators do. He hasn’t won in Ukraine because he cannot.
He certainly wants to, but it has been a stalemate for a year now. No victory except for Ukraine who, despite the entire world watching a little country being attacked by the World’s number 2 military, has hung on. Just staying in the fight is enough for a people who don’t want to be conquered.
The Russians have bitten off more than they can chew. What countries did we demolish in WWII? Germany and Japan. They rebuilt and became economic powerhouses.
Neither of us know the future. Hopium otherwise.
Putin will eventually go the way that dictators do.
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Zelensky is going the way that dictators do….that said, 32 more Ukie tanks dusted last night….the losses are horrendous, why is the collective West so intent on committing suicide?
Again with the Russian subtle almost unworded threats to go nuclear against the West if we do what it takes to push them out of Ukraine. F*ck him and his nuclear threats. Dont believe them anymore and if he’s really crazy enough to use nukes against st the WEST over keeping what he can of Ukraine, well then its boogaloo time. We will see how they can manage that. Enough with the kowtowing to tin ated tyrants whi have nukes. So.e things are existential and taking a stand against
Nuclear blackmail surely qualifies. Wood the founding fathers have chosen to pay the Danegeld or woumd they have rolled the dice again and fought? My 2 cents.
If Trump were in office Putin would not have pulled this maneuver. Weak us presidents are a pox on us, and the world.
I vote that we go ahead and nuke Russia. It’s headed that way because Putin must never be allowed to win. Might as well do it now and get it over with.
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