Posted on 06/06/2023 8:54:33 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
Proving once again that the Russian military and its leaders are scumbags. This is the group the Putin fan boys want running Ukraine.
I’ve tuned out the Russian and Ukrainian war beyond wanting all US support to end. But seeing the many headlines and news, seems most likely that Ukraine did this, they even discussed and planned doing it. Easy to blame Russia. Guess both at fault. We need to stop funding he war and cut off any countries, such as India and China that are helping as well.
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“The Russian military and its leaders are scumbags”
Dam Consequences: How Nova Kakhovka’s Breach Will Transform Russia’s Invasion of Ukraine
On June 6, 2023, the Nova Kakhovka Dam failed. It was quietly a critical piece of Ukrainian infrastructure: drying a flood plain, providing electricity, guaranteeing a nuclear power plant’s safety, and irrigating the regions south. This video looks at the consequences of its destruction, and how it will play into Ukraine’s upcoming (or ongoing?) counteroffensive.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04sg2uHQK7w
0:00 The Nova Kakhovka Dam Breached
0:35 Humanitarian Problems
3:19 Military Implications
4:50 Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant
7:03 Drying Out the Crimean Canal
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V07aM2ePr80
Do you have any information that is not hidden behind a paywall? Like maybe a local or state news source?
The only thing the left out WAS NOT drones dropping grenades. The people being interviewed for this article were drone bombed. The drone was too high so the grenade missed a bit. I wouldn’t put these SOBs past setting up snipers. They were targeting civilian vehicles evacuating families
I just hope this is shown in Russia and either turns the stomachs of, or worries the population about this horrible behavior, and the possibility of having the same thing be done to them.
I guess you missed the part about Russia controlling the road/dam and area around it. No way Ukraine snuck in and set up an explosion this massive and deep.
“Ask who benefits?”
I did. But I didn’t do a Sesame Street level look.
I looked at the footage of the explosion, and compared it to the visible damage on the dam (the BBC fact checking service has aerial shots taken over several days, showing its deterioration).
I looked at troop movements. In particular, occupation of the Kherson islands by Ukrainian forces, Russkies have been attacking those positions while they’re trying to retreat, and senior Russian spokespersons are only too happy that they’ve been successful in destroying some of that force, and celebrating its retreat.
I looked at telegram. Before the dam breached, Russia was saying nothing about it showing signs of failing integrity, but you did have Russian soldiers boasting that they’d mined the area and planted explosives INSIDE the plant and the dam.
I looked at the changing narrative by the local gauleiters and their Moscow media masters. For the first hour after the initial report of a breach they were saying that Russian forces had caused a small explosion, and successfully blocked an “attack on the dam” by Ukraine.
Note they only claimed Ukraine HAD attacked the dam after the sun came up and they realised something had gone terribly wrong. Up to that point it was the usual Minority Report bullshit. Ukraine’s gonna attack the dam. We’ll stop them. By blowing up the road.
All of which points to immense Russian cock-uo, but not to a Russian conspiracy. What it doesn’t do at all is give a single shred of evidence backing up any sane argument that Ukraine stuck into a dam controlled by Russia and blew it up, or Ukraine did a Dambusters raid, or a Uke drone cracked the dam.
Then there’s the seismic detection. Three countries away from Ukraine, the dam failure set off seismographs. If you think a hit on the dam top did that, you’re dumb. Go back to school.
To those who just look at isolated snapshots and the news sources they like most, who really think “Russia couldn’t have been responsible because why would they do it” I’ll just quote Sherlock Holmes said, “you see, but you do not observe.”
This has CASCADE FAILURE written all over it. Russia sat on top of a dam that had impaired structural integrity, the signs of its failure have been there for anyone to see... And instead of warning it was going to crack or, heck, even attempting to make it more stable, they decking mined the area, planted explosives in it, and blew stuff up in proximity to the damaged area.
Russia’s gotta Russia. Utterly, utterly reckless, thoughtless, obsessed with avoiding a propaganda fail, ass-covering.
“Dam’s about to crack? Oh dear. How sad. Never mind that, Vladimir Vladimirovich will shit the bed if the Ukes get across the river. Priorities.”
“three holes in the metal” is not quite the same thing as “cracking the immense concrete structure open like an egg”.
According to Russia’s ever-bullshit ever-changing story, first they blew something up then the ukes flew a drone and possibly a missile flew by or maybe it didn’t, and something bumped the tarmac, and... maybe something like this happened.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=45&v=-6vCQfmnpoQ
Just ignore all those little explosions INSIDE the concrete structure, that absolutely weren’t explosives exploding.
In L.A. they started using robotic dogs to police the city. There are hundreds if not thousands of these robots waiting to be put to use in the rest of America.
uke leaders are the ones who publicly stated they had a plan to blow it up.
then struck the dam/bridge area with himars last december.
i saw the bbc photo’s too.
i’m still unsure how it occurred
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/kievs-long-term-last-resort-plan-blow-kakhova-dam-exposed
Timeline of the Russian narrative, per an author at @wartranslated, indicates that Ria News commented:
Мэр Новой Каховки Леонтьев опроверг РИА Новости информацию о подрыве Каховской ГЭС, назвал это бредом. Он добавил, что в городе везде все тихо и спокойно. t.me/rian_ru/204791Translation: The mayor of Nova Kakhovka Leontiev denied RIA Novosti information about the explosion of the Kakhovka hydroelectric power station, called it nonsense. He added that everything is quiet and calm everywhere in the city.
Here's the tweet from Рыбарь (http://rybar.ru - 1.1 million subscribers) posted before 4:50am (it was edited at 04:51.)
Видео взрыва на Каховской ГЭС старое: подрыв небольшого участка во время вывода ВС РФ с правобережья Днепра. #Россия #Украина #Херсон. t.me/rybar/48068Translation: The video of the explosion at the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station is old: a small area was blown up during the withdrawal of the RF Armed Forces from the right bank of the Dnieper. #Russia #Ukraine #Kherson.
Which is "interesting".
Because our friend Rybar posted, at 05:41, "In the Kherson region, as a result of multiple strikes by the AFU on the Kakhovka Hydroelectric Power Plant, the dam structure of the reservoir collapsed. The rising water level downstream of the Dnieper led to the flooding of towns and villages on both the left and right banks".
So over the course of 45 minutes he went from very specifically saying that RF forces did it while withdrawing, to saying "multiple strikes" by the AFU. Problem is, we can clearly watch the darned footage. Nothing hit the dam top except for perhaps a very, VERY unlucky seagull some time later...
Footage of what appears to be the explosion of a mine at the dam: Seven seconds in you see a bird flapping its way across the bridge, just before there's an explosion on the roadway; 2-3 seconds later you see a bubble erupting directly above the center of the pic. That means there was an explosion BELOW the waterline. 28-29 seconds in there's another surface bubble, not more than a yard or two from the first one. Again, below the water. Of course this is somewhat academic because by this time the dam had already breached, but it does mean stuff kept blowing more chunks out of it after the initial incident.
So, what was the original cause? "Multiple strikes" by the AFU? Not necessarily, according to this...
Новая версия по Каховской ГЭС: ошибка саперов и незапланированный взрыва.. t.me/volyamedia/681Precis: New version of the Kakhovskaya HPP: sappers' mistake and an unplanned explosion: On the afternoon of June 6, we received a message from a source who introduced himself as a member of the RF Armed Forces. According to him, the explosion of the dam was planned for the end of this week. On the evening of June 5, sappers of the 31st Engineer Regiment under the command of Lieutenant Sivyh and Senior Lieutenant Goncharov worked at the hydroelectric power station...
A smart person might ask, why would a couple of engineers be checking the explosives in the dam at 2am and how would they get from checking 'em to setting 'em off?
Of course this source hasn't been verified, so it COULD be fake news. But seriously, it does sound a whole lot more plausible than a barrage of Ukrainian missiles, drones or small arms fire causing irreparable damage to the dam, while it was under RF stewardship, WITHOUT ANYBODY CAPTURING ANYTHING AT ALL ON CAMERA OR AUDIO BEFORE THE BLAST.
Footage from the exact moment of the dam detonation (allegedly) shows absolutely bugger all happening anywhere near the roadway until fifteen seconds in when there's a huge flash of light. Note, this camera is facing north, so the pylons are on the Ukrainian side. If the Ukes were attacking the bridge, they must've been some way off in the distance trying to blow themselves up.>/p>
interesting video. i doubt authenticity.
in first dam already breached b4 video started.
poor bird.
flash to me looked beyond the dam.
bubbles just from water rushing thru.
second video was probaly himars from 2022.
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i’ve seen an interview with a uke soldier who evacuated before water arrived and then watched rus soldiers getting swept away.
if they had a heads up alert,that would be telling.
i still don’t know who did it but am sceptical that it could have been caused by 2022 damage.
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Timeline of the Russian narrative, per an author at @wartranslated, indicates that Ria News commented:
Мэр Новой Каховки Леонтьев опроверг РИА Новости информацию о подрыве Каховской ГЭС, назвал это бредом. Он добавил, что в городе везде все тихо и спокойно. t.me/rian_ru/204791
Translation: The mayor of Nova Kakhovka Leontiev denied RIA Novosti information about the explosion of the Kakhovka hydroelectric power station, called it nonsense. He added that everything is quiet and calm everywhere in the city.
Here’s the tweet from Рыбарь (http://rybar.ru - 1.1 million subscribers) posted before 4:50am (it was edited at 04:51.)
Видео взрыва на Каховской ГЭС старое: подрыв небольшого участка во время вывода ВС РФ с правобережья Днепра.
#Россия #Украина #Херсон. t.me/rybar/48068
Translation: The video of the explosion at the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station is old: a small area was blown up during the withdrawal of the RF Armed Forces from the right bank of the Dnieper. #Russia #Ukraine #Kherson.”
Greatly appreciate your providing this research & commentary. Thank you so much
As the summations states: it does sound a whole lot more plausible than a barrage of Ukrainian missiles, drones or small arms fire causing irreparable damage to the dam, while it was under RF stewardship, WITHOUT ANYBODY CAPTURING ANYTHING AT ALL ON CAMERA OR AUDIO BEFORE THE BLAST.
Coupling that with the fact one week before Kakhovka explosion, Russia suspended accountability for military-caused hazards.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4159004/posts
The BBC and other sites have aerial photos of the dam going back over a week. Clearly from those pics you can see that there already was damage to the road, with the water flow looking irregular.
So the Russian tweet suggesting some footage is old, does make sense.
Again, even if Ukes near the dam were getting out of the way that doesn’t automatically mean they were planning to blow it up.
Since some Russians in the area were saying the dam had been rigged to blow, and since it was deteriorating rapidly so an unavoidable collapse might’ve looked imminent, and since Russia’s been slowly evacuating citizens from some towns on their side of the Dnieper for weeks, I think both sides have plausible deniability.
Just don’t see Ukraine having anything like the motive, means OR opportunity to destroy this dam, especially when their forces downstream were relying on the islands and dry conditions to advance into eastern Kherson toward the border with Zaporozhzhia.
That’s not to say it must’ve been Russia with the motive. They may have had opportunity but I agree, as motives and means go, washing tens of thousands of Ukes away deliberately (like 1941) without fully evacuating their own folks from the lowlands is a bit too Lex Luthor Beachfront Property.
Smells to me of a combination of utter negligence and misadventure.
With possibly a side dose of “we need to do something, this is something, therefore we must do it” in relation to the Ukrainian advances in Kherson.
If Russia’s grunts are to be believed, the commanders didn’t just wire the dam up, they were planning to detonate before the weekend... And as you say that would’ve killed their own troops and civilians. Why would they do it?
My answer would be, they fear their own leaders too much to say no.
Failure to deliver promised military successes, or experiencing military humiliation, is so toxic that it’s about as palatable to the middle management of this war as telling Putin directly that he can screw himself. Windows, polonium tea, a fragging by the rearguard...
If they’d been ordered to blow the dam up rather than risk Ukraine getting control over the crossing point, the last thing on their minds would be, will some grunts downriver get wet.
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