Posted on 04/28/2023 9:08:32 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
You're describing the Antifa and BLM mobs screaming outside people's homes.
This bill is about leaving a flyer on someone's property, and doesn't address mobs.
Now that is a really good analysis.
ANYTHING with a “Hate Crime” designation is pure Bolshevik Thought Crime and ripe for abuse. The entire reason such a designation is IN a law is to provide an opportunity for abuse.
No American “conservative” would be caught dead signing off on such a thing.
I might feel "intimidated" by a BLM flyer denouncing "whiteness," but I doubt my feelings would trigger a felony prosecution, whereas the feelings of a "protected class" might.
Your credibility is impressive after years of weaponization by the left. Intimidation is in the mind; it cannot be measured. When someone claims to be intimidated there is presumed to be a crime. When you leave a flier on a doorstep the person involved or even a third party can claim intimidation and harassment. Vague laws are a gift to lawyers & to the left.
In example: The result of “triggering” prohibitions at University has been the death of free speech and full throated unopposed wokism.
To keep the home “safe” you put society in the hands of the thought police. They will not be on the side of small government and individual freedom. The illusion of protection will dissolve in the reality of oppression.
Those posters supporting these kind of laws are inviting the “thought police”, gestapo into their own neighborhoods. You will only be allowed to promote the “right views” the State views.
Gab.com, the home of the NeoNazi movement.
RE: prohibiting a person from distributing onto private property any material which contains a credible threat to the owner, resident…
What does “credible threat” mean?
If someone for instance puts a pro-Trump flyer into a person’s mailbox, and the person who hates Trump feels he is threatened by it, can the person invoke HB 269?
Does this bill go into the details of what constitutes a credible threat?
Naturally any pro life pamphlet on a abortion clinic or bibble tract can easily be considered hate by a homo group or other religious group.
RE: You post lies, you don’t actually read the legislation about which you comment,
I only asked a question. Up to the time you posted, I never made any comment. Please direct your ire at the author of the article.
It’s all an effort to separate him from his base.
1/ DeSantis is in Israel, like it’s a bad thing.
2/ DeSantis hates free speech and the Constitution.
A real twofer.
EC
“Please direct your ire at the author of the article.”
You posted it.
RE: You posted it.
A post does not necessarily mean one agrees with the writer. It is posted to elicit comments and if possible, rebuttals, which many posters have done.
I tried accessing the link you provided :
My Safari browser says the Server cannot be found
Ok, the state’s website was probably down for a short while. I am able to access it now.
You are right. The posted article should be put on roses. It is not an anti-free speech law. It is a public nuisance any intimidation law. It is summed up in the bill’s language,
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F L O R I D A H O U S E O F R E P R E S E N T A T I V E S
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An act relating to public nuisances; amending s.2
403.413, F.S.; prohibiting a person from distributing3
onto private property any material for the purpose of4
intimidating or threatening the owner, resident, or5
invitee of such property; providing criminal6
penalties; prohibiting a person from distributing onto7
private property any material which contains a8
credible threat to the owner, resident, or invitee of9
such property;...”
BINGO!
JERUSALEM, Israel – Today, Governor Ron DeSantis visited Israel as part of his international trade mission where he signed House Bill 269 to provide law enforcement agencies with new enforcement mechanisms to punish perpetrators of antisemitic incidents and those who target religious communities. By signing HB 269, Governor DeSantis has once again made Florida a leader on protecting religious liberty and the State of Israel both in the United States and around the world. To read a summary of the bill, click here.
So harassment is free speech???
No, harassment is not free speech. The only concern is the possibility of an OVERLY BROAD understanding of what harassment constitutes.
So for instance, if a pro-lifer distributes a flyer or literature not far from an abortion clinic to disuade a woman from aborting her baby, is that harassment?
The intent might be to protect conservatives and parents, but there could be unintended consequences.
That’s why it’s defined as narrowly as it is.
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