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1177 BC, the Year a Perfect Storm Destroyed Civilization
Haaretz ^ | 4/13/2015 | Julis Fridman

Posted on 05/16/2021 11:10:33 AM PDT by LuciusDomitiusAutelian

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To: Wuli

The more CO2 the better - it has been far higher in the distant past - more CO2 = more vegetation = more Oxygen we all need to live.

CO2 is a minor atmospheric gas. Chasing it is a fools errand that will not end well. There is nothing to adapt to nor has the climate of the Earth changed in any appreciable way since 10,800 BC. when we were hit by comet fragments


41 posted on 05/16/2021 12:45:31 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I bought the book. you can read about it in wiki or elsewhere.


42 posted on 05/16/2021 12:51:06 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

By my calculation, the years of famine would have ended around 1522 BC and the famine would have begun 2 years before that.


43 posted on 05/16/2021 12:52:42 PM PDT by JewishRighter
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To: LuciusDomitiusAutelian
"Climate change", not piss-poor military strategy. Riiiiiiight.

O, irony, thou hast reared thy fugly ancient head!

44 posted on 05/16/2021 12:55:43 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (Eric Coomer of Dominion Voting Systems Is The Blue Dress)
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To: PIF

NO argument with your points.

My point is that EVEN IF YOU BELIEVE THEIR “SCIENCE”, their “solutions” are a massive waste of money and will still leave societies not prepared for what THEIR SCIENCE predicts will happen anyway.


45 posted on 05/16/2021 1:00:02 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Revel

“The world will be laid waist with radiation from exploding nuclear power plants. Since you can’ simply switch them off then when the cooling systems stop running they all go boom. The reactors along with many thousands of spent fuel rods in the pools will all be scattered debris across the world. 100,000 years of death.”

OMG, I’m in the middle of establishing Trusts for my family and I just put shrubs in the ground. Am I wasting my time?


46 posted on 05/16/2021 1:01:40 PM PDT by billyboy15 (')
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To: Reily
So we’re all dead then ?
Chernobyl killed us ?

I'm dead and gone

47 posted on 05/16/2021 1:10:54 PM PDT by dead and gone (dead and gone dead and gone)
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To: LuciusDomitiusAutelian

The same phenomenon happened in 565 a.d. when Indonesia erupted. The sun darkened for years. The resulting grain poisoning and shortage caused the fall of the Roman Empire. In the following century Muhammed finished off the remaining Roman strongholds in the middle east. It began the term “dark ages”.


48 posted on 05/16/2021 2:04:10 PM PDT by nagant
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To: nagant

” ... In the following century Muhammed finished off the remaining Roman strongholds in the middle east. It began the term “dark ages ....”

I think this was more set up by “Justinian’s Plague” coming through. Roman (Constantinople) retreated west. Ceded security to Arab & other Foederati kingdoms. This left a power vacuum, this with what few Roman forces were available the “Islamic” forces out of Arabia punched essentially an empty bag.

I am reading a very interesting book on early Islam right now, produced by German historians. It turns the whole historic narrative on its head. Makes a strong case that Mohamed was a historic construction not a single person and that Islam was radically different then what it now is.


49 posted on 05/16/2021 2:19:05 PM PDT by Reily
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To: rfp1234

Those turned out to be mosquito 🦟larvae.


50 posted on 05/16/2021 2:44:47 PM PDT by Kevmo (The tree of liberty is thirsty.)
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To: Wuli

Agree mostly. I’d say it this way: what they predict can never happen, leaving society unprepared for what will happen - a much colder climate to which idiots like b. gates (should he get his way) would be even colder.

We want more CO2, not less.


51 posted on 05/16/2021 2:52:05 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: rfp1234

I remember ordering those sea-monkeys out of a comic book. Turned out to be tiny brine shrimp or something. I was so disappointed.


52 posted on 05/16/2021 3:23:19 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (Give me a Pigfoot and a Bottle of Beer)
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To: Mariner
Anacyclosis

We were just posting on a thread the other day about Scipio Africanus ... his teacher/mentor (and hostage), Polybius, famously expressed the concept of anacyclosis. However, Polybius thought that Rome's constitutional separation of powers would protect it from the cycle. He died just as that cycle was entering its final phase.

Still, his insight on distribution of power and institutions inspired later thinkers such as Machiavelli, who discussed the idea, if not explicitly, in Discourses on Livy
53 posted on 05/16/2021 8:34:27 PM PDT by nicollo (I said no!)
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To: nicollo

He also had great influence on John Adams.
Our republic was essentially copied from the Roman republic and also designed to resist this irresistible force.

https://anacyclosis.org/2021/03/31/john-adams-the-anacyclosis-president/


54 posted on 05/16/2021 9:45:41 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: LuciusDomitiusAutelian

Read later.


55 posted on 05/17/2021 1:44:10 AM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

1177 BC would have been the era of the Judges of Israel. Few hundred years after Joseph in Egypt.


56 posted on 05/17/2021 7:20:10 AM PDT by jjotto (Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: FrogMom; LuciusDomitiusAutelian

57 posted on 05/17/2021 7:58:50 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Wuli

“Climate change” is like gun control - it isn’t about the climate, it is about control (and money, LOTS of money). It is a scam!

I have yet to see even a half-assed analysis of how warmer temperatures around the world will be harmful to the world as a whole. Warmer temps plus mire CO2 = much more robust plant growth, IOW, a surplus of food.


58 posted on 05/17/2021 9:42:29 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, “The Weapon Shops of Isher”)
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To: Ancesthntr

No argument.

My point is their own “science models” predict that current “green” efforts will not and cannot avoid the “crisis” their own alarmist models predict over the next 100-200 years. So, the only thing “gained” by their solutions is more expensive energy for everyone and fabulously wealthy “green” energy industries tied to the “green” mandates on everyone. They all - the government and the “green” industries - get to pat themselves on the back while actually accomplishing nothing that they claim to be accomplishing.


59 posted on 05/17/2021 12:20:13 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: nicollo; Mariner
Fixing my above post, as Polybius mentored Scipio Africanus' adopted grandson, Scipio Africanus Aemilianus, not the great general himself.

Scipio Aemilianus was himself a great warrior and led the final defeat of Carthage, thus closing out his grandfather's victories in the Second Punic War and earning his adnomen "Africanus."
60 posted on 05/19/2021 6:47:07 AM PDT by nicollo (I said no!)
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