VANITY: Let’s beat the dead horse. Is it time for a new party to displace the Republican Party?

[BlackbirdSST]

Third party fantasies only lead to disappointment and defeat.

Funny how that looks just like 1st(D) and 2nd(R) Party fantasies. *eye roll*

The Gelded Old Party needs to die with a pike shoved up their nether regions straight through to their lying mouths.

[BlackbirdSST]

I am for it! So tired of being a Republican..in fact I’m through being one.

I'll never vote another R. We are legion. All of this talk of changing these R'tards is asinine. I've heard it for more than 40 years. Not one day more!

[zaxtres]

Teddy Roosevelt tried it - and lost.

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It worked for our 22nd and 24th President - Grover Cleveland. The only President to do so, thus far.

[zaxtres]

People have forgotten what the Repubes did in the 2016 election to crown...err elect their candidate. In 2016 we had 19 candidates. This was to siphon off votes from those who the swampers did not want to see as a potential candidate. What makes people think this will not be done again? In a sense the Repubes tried, and failed, at rigging the primaries so that Yeb would win and run against Hitlary. So the Repubes are no better than the demoncraps in trying to rig and election in their favor. Repubes are not innocent. This was thwarted by what everyone thought was a joke of a candidate - Trump.

[silent majority rising]

Paul Ryan is gone.

[rlmorel]

As I said, there was nothing personal in that post before. You and I (and many others here) have a significant difference of opinion.

I am feeling low, and am angry and heartbroken for my country.

Problem is, if it were just me who felt this way, the Republican party might yet limp onwards for a while.

But it isn’t just me. I feel as if there are tens of millions of people just like me. If that is true (and I do believe it is) then the Republicans have lost already. They may squeak out a win and maintain control of the Senate. But it is not going to win in the long term.

Many of us will indeed pull that lever for the likes of Mitch McConnell or Lindsey Graham, but their election is going to be more like a severed head whose eyes open and close after the guillotine takes the head off.

If this election stands, and these people who are ostensibly on our side are completely and totally willing to go along with it (as they clearly are) then it shows they love themselves, their gravy train, and their privileged position far, FAR more than they love their country and what it used to stand for.

I am heartbroken by what I have seen. Doesn’t mean I won’t fight. It means I will have to fight against a larger group of politicians and ostensible American citizens to return to a Constitutional Republic which we NO LONGER HAVE. And the odds are stacked against it.

And that makes me feel physically ill. Positively sick.

I have my wife. I have my family. I will have my job, for a little while, at least.

But I don’t have my country any more.

If I want it, I am going to have to wrench it from the hands of people, including some I used to have to grudgingly accept as allies.

I would like to hope I am wrong. I pray to God that I am wrong.

[rlmorel]

The Republicans may not be “totally innocent” but they are not primarily the ones who went out of their way to corrode, deconstruct and outright destroy any safeguards on the electoral process.

That is the Democrat party who pushed ALL those things, 100%. That is indisputable and undeniable.

What is also true is that the people who did not stand up to what was going on are also complicit.

That includes nearly the entire Republican party whose feeble attempts were no more than an annoying speed bump.

And includes everyone. You. Me. Everyone. Because we let that happen.

When a political party realized it could break every single law with impunity, use the instruments of government power to spy on, slander, set up, prosecute, and leverage media, entertainment, and industry to do their bidding without so much as a feeble protest except for patriots like Devin Nunes, then this is a done deal.

The mask is off, we aren’t going to claw our way back to a constitutional republic ruled by law when it is 100% understood by even the dimmest bulbs that punishment will only be doled out to those who object to the criminality.

And this genie is not going back in that bottle.

[wildcard_redneck]

"Paul Ryan is gone."

How could I be so silly? Of course Paul Ryan was the only closeted globalist leftist in the GOP! /sarc

Do you have any other inane observations?

[Crucial]

I was for it after watching Republicans roll over again and again.

But really, if we can’t keep the party we have in line, what makes anyone think we can make a new party a success?

All it would have taken to really improve the Republican party is more successful primaries, which too many conservatives just dont bother with or think unnecessary.

The weakness lies in the Right, refusing to fight for liberty, which is what the Right is supposed to be about.

[gogeo]

I had said goodbye to the GOP. DJT brought me back.

I'm now a Trumplican. If the GOP as a party from the state to national level cannot keep a won election, they will not survive...nor should they.

The next month doesn't just determine the DJT presidency. IMO, it will determine the future of the Repubs. If they are unable or unwilling to fight, so be it.