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...right in respect to their competition the communists...
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NATIONAL socialism vs. INTERNATIONAL socialism.

Obviously you didn’t read my post. Try your thinking and comprehension skills with a little old-fashioned research. It will help you understand the difference at the time of our founders between the over 1000 of years of despot feudal/autocratic ‘conservative-right’ European governance vs the beginning roots of our colonial western spectrum of governance(Euro classic-liberal/libertarian). Even the tried democracies of self-rule governance by the Roman empire and Greece were considered ‘left’ or liberal in political academia and the body-politic of Europe. Our founders rejected democracies for their inherent mob-rule self-destruction. Our 1700’s founders were indeed more left of European democracy, and more libertarian(farther left) as classic Euro-liberals (advocating even less government).

Indeed the early socialist/Fabian/Marx ideologues of 19 century Europe were considered politically ‘left’ in American academia when placed on the western political spectrum... but were very much placed to the ‘right’ on the European spectrum.

In reality, the correct position the historic 1000+ years of classic Euro-right governance occupies a far-left placement within the modern ‘Western’ political spectrum/model of despotic governing.

Western academia and the socialist ideologues of Europe merged the 2 political plectrums using the western spectrum as the standard reference in where both European & western political governance were scaled from. That is how the European ‘right’ overlaid the western right. It was deliberately done by academia to conflate Western-right’ as being equal to Euro-right so socialist academia can align conservatives/republicans as Hitler-fascist tyrants!

Do you understand now?? Western placement of political governance(scaling) is reversed from the European model!

And no... at the time of Hitler and Nazis, socialism/fascism was considered European ‘right-wing’ on their political spectrum. The more right, the more despotic/fascist and more government.

Western spectrum is the exact reverse... the more left, the more despotic/fascist and more government.

The political spectrum of Western governance began with the pinning of ‘Euro-classic liberal left’ ideals of our founders, which scaled from the right. Political ‘Right’ historically ALWAYS meant... roots, origin, original, source or establish, founding, conservative.

European political ideals/governance for over 1000 years were rooted/established in a source by despotic regimes of autocracy, monarchy and the rule of tyrants. Communism, socialism, fascism. Nazis... were all derived from the ideals of totalitarian/authoritarian governance by oligarchs... ‘Right-wing’ European.

European/Western academia along with the Marxist globalists HAVE BEEN deliberately changing/conflating the separate governing histories of the Euro/Western political-spectrum models to indoctrinate our children into believing conservatism means fascism. This is what has happened in the past 100 years. Western modern conservatism has been aligned with European ‘classic’ conservatism(pre-1900’s). They are POLAR OPPOSITES!

You fail to understand the history of the Socialist movement, and why one part calls another right-wing or left-wing.

You make up your own esoteric model at complete variance with actual history - maybe you are too young to have lived it but many of us did.

Save your reply, please; I’m not interested in debating your wordy posts.

Hey, hold up a minute Einstein and shut up. The Left has always used for decades the smear against conservatives as being ‘’right wingers'' , aka, Nazis. I know because I used to be a Leftist. Everything about European politics has always leaned Left. The Italian Fascists, The Nazis, The Russian Communists. You can take the rest of your twaddle and put it where the sun don't shine.