Posted on 06/23/2020 10:52:25 AM PDT by Jess Kitting
I’m not quite sure I agree totally with you ST, but you’ve got a major point.
But first, I was a hippie from the sixties and you described me well. Now I am a staunch conservative while back in those days I held hands across America, marched endlessly against that horrible Vietnam was (many of our lives, to include mine, were turned upside down by that politico run war which made no sense to us).
And please don’t forget that there are FOUR DEAD IN OHIO.
Yes those were stressful times and we should be reminded that we got through it, maybe we’ll get through this mess.
Who knows.
I like Tim though I think he’s been mostly libertarian when I’ve seen him.
I watched the Joe Rogan podcast when Tim and @Jack were the guests and @Jack was lying through his teeth the whole time about Twitter not being biased. Tim challenged him much harder than Joe.
“but NOT ONE BRAVE MAN will take it directly to the Marxists...NOT ONE!! Damn shame!!”
The first man to fire a shot at the forces of evil will be lynched as a “terrorist.”
“that politico run war which made no sense to us”
That’s because we were stupid and ignorant. In our defense, we were being propagandized all day every day.
The Soviets actually did plan to take over the entire world. Vietnam was a hot flareup in the Cold War. High-level Soviet analysts have said that our efforts in Vietnam caused the Soviet Union to fall at least ten years earlier than it otherwise would have. That probably saved millions of lives.
Further, while everyone with a three-digit IQ knew that the North Vietnamese were going to perpetrate a bloodbath as soon as they took over the South, our efforts delayed it and ameliorated its savagery to some degree. Many of the South Vietnamese were able to escape murder entirely and only because of our efforts.
It wasn’t for nothing; it wasn’t meaningless; it wasn’t solely to generate profits for the military-industrial complex, and if we’d had anything other than fake-news media everybody would know it.
In general, opposing evil is the right thing to do, and those 58,000 men who died gave their lives standing up to evil. They are to be honored.
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TIME FOR AMERICA TO VOMIT OUT THE LEFTIST POISON.
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Rhode Island's Ivy League Brown University's namesake actually commissioned a slave ship where a total of 109 captured slaves died!
From the Brown University Slavery and Justice: report of the Brown University Steering Committee on Slavery and Justice:
Like other members of their class, the Browns were slaveowners. There are records of Captain James Brown, the brothers father, purchasing slaves as early as 1728, and he left four slaves in his estate upon his death in 1739. By the early 1770s, the brothers owned at least fourteen slaves, several of them in common. Moses, who in 1773 became the first of the brothers to renounce slaveholding, seems to have held the largest number, owning six slaves outright, as well as a quarter interest in several others....
In 1759, the family returned to the African trade, when Obadiah, Nicholas, and John, along with a handful of smaller investors, dispatched a rumladen schooner, the Wheel of Fortune, to Africa. With war raging between Britain and France, it was a risky venture and it ended in failure. The ship arrived safely on the African coast, but it was subsequently captured by a French privateer. While Obadiah had taken the precaution of insuring the voyage, the loss of the ship still represented a substantial financial setback for the family. For the enslaved Africans on board, the capture of the ship likely made no difference, as they would simply have been carried to the French West Indies and sold there.
With the restoration of peace in 1763, the Browns decided to return to the African trade. (Obadiah had died the year before, leaving the family business in the hands of the four brothers, trading under the name Nicholas Brown and Company.) The North American economy was in the doldrums, and the brothers needed capital to buy supplies for their candle works, as well as for their newest venture, an iron furnace. With slave labor in high demand throughout the Americas, an African voyage promised a quick and substantial profit. The brothers initially planned a joint venture with Carter Braxton, a Virginia merchant and later signer of the Declaration of Independence, but in the end they elected to proceed by themselves. The result was the voyage of the Sally.
The Slave Ship Sally, 1764-65
The Sally sailed from Providence in 1764, the year of Browns founding. The ship carried the standard African cargo, including spermaceti candles, tobacco, onions, and 17,274 gallons of New England rum. It also carried an assortment of chains, shackles, swivel guns, and small arms to control the human cargo to come. In their letter of instructions, the Brown brothers ordered the ships master, Esek Hopkins, to make his passage to the Windward Coast of Africa, to exchange his goods for slaves, and to sell those slaves to best advantage in the West Indies. They also asked him to bring four likely young slaves, boys of fifteen years or younger, back to Providence for the familys own use.
The voyage was a disaster in every conceivable sense. Many other merchants had the same idea as the Browns, and Hopkins found the West African coast crowded with slavers, including more than two-dozen ships from Rhode Island. The market for rum was glutted and captives were scarce and expensive. Hopkins eventually acquired a cargo of 196 Africans, but it took him more than nine months to do so, an exceptionally long time for a slave ship to remain on the African coast, especially for those confined below decks. By the time the Sally set sail for the West Indies, nineteen Africans had already died, including several children and one woman who hanged her Self between Decks. A twentieth captive, also a woman, was left for dead on the day the ship sailed.
The toll continued to mount on the return journey. Four more Africans one woman and three children died in the first week at sea. On the eighth day out, the captives rose in rebellion, a fact noted in a terse entry in the ships account book: Slaves Rose on us was obliged fire on them and Destroyed Eight and Several more wounded badly 1 Thye and ones Ribs broke. In the weeks that followed, death was an almost daily occurrence; according to Hopkins, the captives became so Despireted after the failed insurrection that Some Drowned themselves Some Starved and others Sickened & Dyed. In all, sixty-eight Africans perished during the crossing, each loss carefully recorded in the account book. Another twenty Africans died in the days after the ship reached the West Indies, bringing the total death toll to 108. (A 109th captive, one of the four likely lads requested by the Brown brothers, died en route to Providence.) The survivors, auctioned in Antigua, were so sickly and emaciated that they commanded prices as low as £5 apiece, scarcely one-tenth of the prevailing price for a prime slave. The poor returns on the voyage prompted an apologetic letter from the merchant who handled some of the sales. I am truly Sorry for the Bad Voyage you [had], he wrote. [H]ad the negroes been young + Healthy I should have been able to sell them pretty well. I make no doubt if you was to try this market again with Good Slaves I Should be able to give you Satisfaction.
-PJ
Tim and I are about the same age and I agree 100% with what you said.
I posted a thread #canceltheIvyLeague a couple days ago. In it I laid out the massive ties to slavery and slave trading that provided the seed capital for the entire Ivy League. All of them are implicated up to their eyeballs. Harvard, Princeton, Columbia, Yale, Brown...even Georgetown which though not in the Ivy League, deserved to be thrown in as well. They have endowments worth well over $100 billion.
THERE’s the place to start when looking for reparations.
Yale needs to refund every tuition ever collected. Any graduate must surrender their diplomas. Then burn the place down. Then change the name. There, all fixed.
Georgetown has made some efforts to address its past. The others, I doubt it.
If I were on Twitter, I would support/like/promote your #canceltheIvyLeague meme/hashtag.
By the way, when are they going to change the name "Columbia" or "Princeton"--It's sexist, you know--"Princesston?"
And there have certainly been racists in Harvard's past, not to mention their present policies toward Asians.
#canceltheIvyLeague indeed.
Bill and Hillary Clinton, George Bush (both of them), John Kerry, Paul Krugman, Fareed Zakaria, Anderson Cooper
He also was a Rhodes Scholar. You know, Cecil Rhodes, the guy “Rhodesia” was named after?
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