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Video: Trump’s Lawyer Alan Dershowitz – You Have No Constitutional Right To Refuse Vaccinations
Red State Nation ^ | 05.08.2020 | Sarah Hall

Posted on 05/18/2020 8:18:30 AM PDT by USA Conservative

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To: hawkaw
Just curious. If you cut your hand badly on a rusty piece of steel, would you take a tetanus shot or rely on the great immunity system you have?

Well, seeing that my chances of 1) cutting my hand badly on a rusty piece of steel and 2) developing tetanus (0 cases reported in the US last reported year 2018) are pretty much about a billion to one, I’m certainly not going to take a vaccine with its toxic adjuvants before it even happens to “protect myself”. In the infinitesimally small chance I would contract it, I would take a tetanus shot - not a vaccination but a shot of tetanus Immunoglobulin (similar to convalescent plasma for covid or Ebola).

You?

121 posted on 05/18/2020 2:43:58 PM PDT by Shethink13 (Sthere are 0 electoral votes in the state of denialz)
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To: USA Conservative

I prefer persuasion to coercion.


122 posted on 05/18/2020 2:46:14 PM PDT by kanawa ((Trump Loves a Great Deal (NorthernSentinel)))
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To: Shethink13

I take tetanus, got a booster after a bad dog bite and always ensure I am fully vaccinated. When I was younger, I went through a few diseases because I couldn’t get vaccinated. Put me the hospital a couple of times. I learned my lesson. I encourage vaccinations.

Have a great day.


123 posted on 05/18/2020 2:57:18 PM PDT by hawkaw
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To: wildcard_redneck

wildcard_redneck wrote: “So what if the government passed a law that said if you were mentally incompetent that you must be sterilized? Oh wait, they did do that in America. If you think that the government should have control over your body then you think like g-d Nazi.”

You lose - “Reductio ad Hitlerum”.


124 posted on 05/18/2020 3:04:40 PM PDT by DugwayDuke ("A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest")
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To: Shethink13

Shethink13 wrote: “And you have not addressed my question as to the requirement of individuals who already have naturally acquired immunity and the necessity for them to receive a vaccine.”

OK, Fine, if you want to show proof of your immunity by means of an anti-body test in lieu of the vaccine.


125 posted on 05/18/2020 3:07:55 PM PDT by DugwayDuke ("A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest")
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To: Shethink13

Shethink13 wrote: “Speaking for myself, I believe the effectiveness of any vaccine is nil compared to naturally acquired immunity.”

Perhaps, where did you get your degree in immunology?


126 posted on 05/18/2020 3:09:21 PM PDT by DugwayDuke ("A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest")
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To: DugwayDuke
OK, Fine, if you want to show proof of your immunity by means of an anti-body test in lieu of the vaccine.

Oh, you mean like “show us your papers, please”?

127 posted on 05/18/2020 3:10:03 PM PDT by Shethink13 (Sthere are 0 electoral votes in the state of denialz)
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To: DugwayDuke
Perhaps, where did you get your degree in immunology?

Does that matter? Can you refute anything I stated?

128 posted on 05/18/2020 3:12:00 PM PDT by Shethink13 (Sthere are 0 electoral votes in the state of denialz)
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To: DugwayDuke
“You lose - “Reductio ad Hitlerum”.

You think like a control-freak idiot who cannot fail in embracing every evil. If forced sterilizations ever come back you will probably be among the first targets.

129 posted on 05/18/2020 3:18:54 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck ("Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither.")
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To: hawkaw
I take tetanus, got a booster after a bad dog bite and always ensure I am fully vaccinated. When I was younger, I went through a few diseases because I couldn’t get vaccinated. Put me the hospital a couple of times. I learned my lesson. I encourage vaccinations.

Encourage away. Just make sure you are fully informed about the truth of vaccines and not just relying on the claims of those who benefit financially and are legally protected from liability for any adverse effects from their product. I’m sure you wouldn’t want to be responsible for convincing someone to get a vaccination and them ending up with lifelong injury from that decision.

I can’t stop you from believing what you believe, I’m merely telling you what I believe because of my own research.

The whole point of this thread is whether we can maintain the freedom to make those individual decisions.

Just out of curiosity and only if you wish to disclose - why couldn’t you get vaccinated? Also, were the diseases you acquired viral and if so did you ever test for antibodies naturally acquired? Seems a shame to not take advantage of your own immunity after going through an illness from it.

Regards.

130 posted on 05/18/2020 3:55:56 PM PDT by Shethink13 (Sthere are 0 electoral votes in the state of denialz)
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To: wildcard_redneck

wildcard_redneck wrote: “If forced sterilizations ever come back you will probably be among the first targets.”

You’re really into that Hitler/Nazi stuff.


131 posted on 05/18/2020 4:01:44 PM PDT by DugwayDuke ("A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest")
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To: Shethink13

Shethink13 wrote: “Can you refute anything I stated?”

You said it, you prove it? Youtube videos don’t count.


132 posted on 05/18/2020 4:04:36 PM PDT by DugwayDuke ("A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest")
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To: DugwayDuke
You said it, you prove it? Youtube videos don’t count.

LOL. You don’t believe it, you refute it.

133 posted on 05/18/2020 4:11:12 PM PDT by Shethink13 (Sthere are 0 electoral votes in the state of denialz)
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To: DugwayDuke
DugwayDuke wrote: ”You’re really into that Hitler/Nazi stuff.”

No, I’m using actual history as a guide to inform the present and predict the future. The Nazis were really big into eugenics, as anyone but a moron understands, and one the first damn evil things they did was mandatory sterilization of the people they considered to be ‘life unworthy of life. They did this and the medical professionals of prewar Germany we’re big fans of the policy. Forced immunizations is the state claiming ownership of the bodies of their subjects and renders citizens into slaves and livestock.

I ask you DugwayDuke, if the government can control your body, can you really claim be a free person?

134 posted on 05/18/2020 4:58:55 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck ("Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither.")
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To: Shethink13

Allergic. No. Unfortunately, I was never tested.

Have a great night.


135 posted on 05/18/2020 5:38:01 PM PDT by hawkaw
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To: Shethink13

Shethink13 wrote: “You don’t believe it, you refute it.”

Why should I try to refute your anti-vaccines conspiracy theory fantasies?


136 posted on 05/19/2020 4:14:35 AM PDT by DugwayDuke ("A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest")
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To: DugwayDuke
Why should I try to refute your anti-vaccines conspiracy theory fantasies?

So you believe a vaccine creates a magic invisible force field that prevents a virus from entering or exiting a vaccinated person’s body? Who’s fantasies?

137 posted on 05/19/2020 5:41:38 PM PDT by Shethink13 (Sthere are 0 electoral votes in the state of denialz)
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To: Shethink13

Shethink13 wrote: “So you believe a vaccine creates a magic invisible force field that prevents a virus from entering or exiting a vaccinated person’s body? Who’s fantasies?”

It’s a fantasy if you think I believe that.

Now, I do believe the more who are vaccinated, the fewer who will get infected. The fewer infections, the less the spread. Just a more efficient way to create herd immunity.


138 posted on 05/19/2020 7:32:47 PM PDT by DugwayDuke ("A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest")
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To: USA Conservative

Alan Dershowitz is full of crap!

The Supreme Court case he sites is about people with Small Pox and Bubonic plague.

All the case said is that the government has the right to “quarantine” people who were diagnosed with Small Pox and Bubonic plague.

It says nothing about kidnapping and forced injections by the State.

Aside from that if you are dumb enough to take a RNA vaccine, then you should not have to worry about those who do not. After all we are told the vaccine cures you.

Alan Dershowitz is so full of crap.

Oh for the Freepers that think this is one time deal. It is not, and that is because viruses mutate (change) thousands of times a year. So you have to take it every year.

This is why there has never been a vaccine for the common cold. By the time you would mass produce a strain of the virus it has already changed.


139 posted on 05/21/2020 7:52:32 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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