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What if hydroxychloroquine doesn’t work? What if it does? Right now, we don’t know
STAT ^ | March 27, 2020 | Matthew Herper

Posted on 03/29/2020 10:58:40 AM PDT by Widget Jr

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This shows the other side of the issue on hydroxychloroquine and finding cures during a pandemic. A few non-clinical trials, doctors using medications on their own, and andanecdotal evidence are not proofs any one cure really works. Dr. Fauci has been consistent on pursing clinical trials to get good results and reliable data, and this is going to take time.
1 posted on 03/29/2020 10:58:40 AM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: Widget Jr

Shanghai Study? Yeah. Right.


2 posted on 03/29/2020 11:01:45 AM PDT by nhwingut (Tagline for lease...)
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I wonder how much big science doesn’t want the generic drug to work...no money in that.


3 posted on 03/29/2020 11:01:51 AM PDT by for-q-clinton
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To: Widget Jr

This may help
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miYCPS_r9Wk

And this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GPAdRUWtfo
https://techstartups.com/2020/03/28/dr-vladimir-zelenko-now-treated-699-coronavirus-patients-100-success-using-hydroxychloroquine-sulfate-zinc-z-pak-update/?fbclid=IwAR2_Y5StzGnQnI1gEWXq6ciOT0dpumKCwHRxNbEByrWKl0wVUIDGUWr8HpY


4 posted on 03/29/2020 11:02:25 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: Widget Jr

Even if there is only a placebo effect, I’d say don’t stop using the Trump pills except for the few cases where there would be known bad side effects because of existing conditions..


5 posted on 03/29/2020 11:02:46 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Widget Jr

Fauci also said he’d give his patient hydroxy.


6 posted on 03/29/2020 11:03:25 AM PDT by nhwingut (Tagline for lease...)
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Why do people keep saying that it is not proven?

F$&k those idiots.

Tired of the BS.

Just get it out there already.


7 posted on 03/29/2020 11:03:36 AM PDT by Jayster (Legalize Marijuana)
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Google Med Cram. Sitting here in lockdown with my biochemistry book and medical terminology dictionary and these 45 videos. We get about 5 a week. It's all free.
8 posted on 03/29/2020 11:03:37 AM PDT by Battle Axe (Repent, for the Lord is coming.)
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How much Moderna stock did you say you had?


9 posted on 03/29/2020 11:03:45 AM PDT by Hugh the Scot ("Jesus was a fundamentalist".- BipolarBob)
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Fauci also said today we could have 200,000 deaths associated with COVID-19 in the US alone.


10 posted on 03/29/2020 11:04:55 AM PDT by CatOwner
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To: Hugh the Scot

None.


11 posted on 03/29/2020 11:06:19 AM PDT by Widget Jr
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It is working. The demand for double blind clinical trials an normal approval is Fauci, the Hillary lover, being a prig and standing on procedure during an emergency. He has zero reason to make this end fast and have it benefit Trump.

This drug being used on Corona is not an unknown concept and it has been under study for use on corona for a few years already. This therapy is not a few testimonial/anecdotal incidents. And this drug is decades old.

Don’t be sad that it appears to be working in many geographic areas.


12 posted on 03/29/2020 11:06:55 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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Proving point that Fauci talks out of both sides of his mouth.


13 posted on 03/29/2020 11:07:09 AM PDT by nhwingut (Tagline for lease...)
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The only way Hydrychloroquine will not be shown to work is if the pro-pandemic crowd cook the trial results. Look for that possibility because they are desperate to keep this pandemic going.


14 posted on 03/29/2020 11:07:25 AM PDT by iontheball
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My wife has a colleague in NYC who had CV symptoms, shortness of breath, high-fever, bad cough. He’s mid-thirties, in good health otherwise, with no severe underlying conditions. His doctor told him to self-quarantine and to let him know if his symptoms became worse. If so, he would then have him tested. It never came to that. He also prescribed hydroxychloroquine and a Z-Pack. The young man told my wife today that after two days of taking the medication he was feeling much better and that after five days his symptoms are almost gone! Real story. Real first-hand account. Real results! Good news!


15 posted on 03/29/2020 11:07:29 AM PDT by Batman11 ( The USA is not an ATM!)
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I’m fine with Fouci, conducting good clinical trials.

But in the meantime, we have evidence suggesting it works. It’s relatively safe.

It seems common sense to make it widely available while the clinical trials are ongoing.

The French doctor Raoult (sp?) refused to do a control group because he was so convinced of the drugs efficacy that to deny the control group treatment would be unethical.


16 posted on 03/29/2020 11:07:49 AM PDT by DannyTN
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"What if hydroxychloroquine doesn’t work? What if it does? Right now, we don’t know"

Really????....

- "100% of patients that received a combination of the two anti-malaria drugs tested negative and were virologically cured within 6 days of treatment."

17 posted on 03/29/2020 11:08:29 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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There are anti virals that were being used earlier before this treatment came about. Then there is intervention with an intubator until the virus clears the body. Hoping that in the meantime, organs don’t fail.


18 posted on 03/29/2020 11:09:45 AM PDT by HollyB
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The author is a Bill Gates bot.

“Matthew Herper has covered medical innovation — both its promise and its perils — for two decades, chronicling the rise of genetic medicine and the ballooning cost of new drugs. Along the way he’s profiled major figures from Martin Shkreli to Bill Gates. From 2000 to 2018, he covered science and medicine for Forbes, writing 17 covers and building the Forbes Healthcare Summit into an industry-leading event.”


19 posted on 03/29/2020 11:10:03 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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Exactly... Why are the NYC docs taking it (without z pac) to prevent infection? And if it didn’t work, why are they not all dropping dead - after all they are the highest of the high risk - being around a deadly virus 24/7?


20 posted on 03/29/2020 11:10:42 AM PDT by nhwingut (Tagline for lease...)
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