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The Murderous State of New York
NCC-1776 ^ | 3 Feb 2019 | L. Neil Smith

Posted on 02/04/2019 7:10:46 AM PST by Rummyfan

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1 posted on 02/04/2019 7:10:46 AM PST by Rummyfan
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a woman’s natural right to control her own body, by means of an abortion

A better means would be to not lay with a man if you don't want to become pregnant.

2 posted on 02/04/2019 7:18:19 AM PST by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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To: Rummyfan
I’m a lifelong advocate and supporter of a woman’s natural right to control her own body, by means of an abortion, if necessary.

...To its inevitable conclusion. What did this Smith character think was going to happen?

Libertarian. What a load a feces.

3 posted on 02/04/2019 7:18:37 AM PST by onedoug
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4 posted on 02/04/2019 7:20:25 AM PST by maggief
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To: onedoug

It’s not only her body.


5 posted on 02/04/2019 7:21:39 AM PST by A strike (I DEMAND my responsibilities!)
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One wonders how many abortions Cuomo has personally paid for.


6 posted on 02/04/2019 7:23:44 AM PST by txrefugee
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With a mug like that I’m surprised any woman would come near him. But wasn’t he married to a Kennedy for a while?


7 posted on 02/04/2019 7:25:05 AM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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“ supporter of a woman’s natural right to control her own body, by means of an abortion, if necessary.“

Libertarian or not, religious or not, it is not a matter of woman’s own body. The fact is that once the person is conceived he or she is a person attached to the mother.


8 posted on 02/04/2019 7:28:34 AM PST by stanne
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To: Rummyfan
I’m a lifelong advocate and supporter of a woman’s natural right to control her own body

Wasn't she in control when she spread her legs open??
9 posted on 02/04/2019 7:31:04 AM PST by eyeamok
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The baby is not the mother’s body. The baby is a distinct human individual, being nourished by the mother’s body.

Boycotting New York products will not change anything. No one will notice. I don’t care where my coffee comes from.

The government has as its main function to protect the life and property of residents. Libertarians accept that fact.

The morality of killing babies has nothing to do with religion. It comes from our human nature. Most religions today have no clue what is meant by human nature, and would not understand what I’m saying.


10 posted on 02/04/2019 7:36:41 AM PST by I want the USA back (In any war between the civilized world and the savage support the civilized man. -Geller.)
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I’m a lifelong advocate and supporter of a woman’s natural right to control her own body, by means of an abortion, if necessary.

Such a specious and immoral argument. The baby is not the woman's body. At conception it is 50% mother's DNA and 50% father's DNA. After 8 days it has it's own blood supply.

The baby is no more part of the woman than a person on life support is a part of the hospital.

11 posted on 02/04/2019 7:38:28 AM PST by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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IL Douchebag is destroying New York!


12 posted on 02/04/2019 7:38:58 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: Rummyfan
understand that, as a libertarian—rather than a conservative—I’m a lifelong advocate and supporter of a woman’s natural right to control her own body,

As a libertarian (who places natural individual rights above the power of the State), actively permitting the killing a human being while it is most vulnerable is the most criminal misuse of state power that can exist.

13 posted on 02/04/2019 7:43:52 AM PST by PGR88
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The author explains precisely why abortion is such a slippery slope. He is ok with abortion up to six months. But fifty years of that has desensitized and inured people to the horror of that mass killing, it’s a small step to what NY and VA are doing.

Of course, it cannot be contained there. Next will be parents deciding that infant’s some abnormality is bad. Then it will be because the child is “inconvenient” to “too expensive” or “we changed our mind.” Then it will be elderly people against their will. Finally, it will be “Wild in the Streets.”


14 posted on 02/04/2019 8:02:18 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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(it used to be the sixth, before the fetus was truly human)

Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus.

The foetus is truly human from the moment of conception, when egg and sperm unite to create a being will the full complement of human DNA.

That is science. But science has no moral significance, so to understand its implications for our values we must look elsewhere. Perhaps here:

Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. (Matt xxv:40)

15 posted on 02/04/2019 8:06:04 AM PST by John Locke
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Doesn’t the author mean the murderous democrat politicians?

JoMa


16 posted on 02/04/2019 8:09:32 AM PST by joma89
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"...a woman’s natural right to control her own body, by means of an abortion" ...
"A better means would be to not lay with a man if you don't want to become pregnant. "

Exactly. The natural right to control your own body is preceded by the natural DUTY to control your own body. If women controlled their own bodies, 99% of unwanted pregnancies would not occur. (I'm exaggertedly claiming that only 1% of pregnancies are due to forcible rape. Even Alan Guttmacher would agree it's less than that.)

"If you don't want to make a baby, don't do the baby-making thing."

"Control your own body. A pre-conception right." How about those as slogans for Libertarians for Life?

17 posted on 02/04/2019 8:17:35 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("If it be possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone." - Romans 12:18)
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Yet he says he respects the human mind. Which begins its process of growth and development at conception, and physiologically matures about the age of 25.

That will incline you to the logical conclusion that either it's OK to kill our offspring until age 25 (because before that, the brain is still developing) -- or wrong to kill your offspring after Day One (because after that,the brain, like every other physiological structure of the body, is developing.) Eventually, our principled Libertarian is going to have to choose all or nothing.

I hope he doesn't end up on the side of mass murder.

18 posted on 02/04/2019 8:24:51 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("If it be possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone." - Romans 12:18)
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To: I want the USA back

P.S. I teach my Catholic RCIA students the basis of Natural Law.


19 posted on 02/04/2019 8:26:29 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("If it be possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone." - Romans 12:18)
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To: Rummyfan
I’m a lifelong advocate and supporter of a woman’s natural right to control her own body, by means of an abortion, if necessary.

The one flaw in that reasoning is that the baby that the woman is pregnant with, is not *her own body*. It's not an extension of her body, as if it were a mole or tumor being removed.

It's a genetically distinct human being with its own DNA.

Hence, her actions affect not only her body, but the body or another individual, one who CANNOT speak for themselves or defend themselves.

THAT is the issue with that argument. If it were indeed ONLY her body, no problem, but it's involving two.

And intentionally taking the life of another human being is murder.

If any person killed another in the same way the abortionists slaughter those babies, there would be calls for a return of the death penalty.

Acid attacks are universally condemned, but saline abortions? Fine.

Dismembering a person still alive would get someone locked up for life at the very least. Slicing the baby apart limb from limb, is a *woman's right to choose*.

Any murder done to an adult in the manner the abortionist performs the abortions would be considered sick and evil, and twisted.

The irony is, we demand the death penalty be humane and not cruel and unusual for serial killers and sadists, rapists and people who torture and kill others, but the baby, who has done nothing, can be killed in the most horrific manner possible.

The baby didn't even ask to be conceived. It just has the misfortune of being an inconvenience to the woman and she's given the right to do to that baby what no sane human would ever think of doing to another.

The best bumper sticker I saw said *It's easy to be pro-abortion when you're not the one being killed*.

20 posted on 02/04/2019 8:27:24 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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