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Pamela Geller's Youtube Channel Is Demonetized
Instagram ^ | August 14, 2018 | Pamela Geller

Posted on 08/14/2018 6:17:21 PM PDT by OddLane

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To: DiogenesLamp
You want the magical "market" to solve a problem, and you have so much faith in it that you believe some deus ex machina will always emerge to rescue us.

And your answer is to abandon the Constitution and the rule of law. Laws that apply equally to Alphabet and Free Republic, LLC.

In your vision who determines when a site gets so large that they lose the protections of the Constitution?

61 posted on 08/14/2018 9:02:11 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: semimojo
If you start having the government take over private businesses because you don't like their politics you've already lost the country.

There is some more dishonesty. No one, and I mean absolutely *NO ONE* has suggested the government "take over" their private business.

The topic on the table is requiring censorous bastards to provide service equally to everybody.

So long as they obey the intent of the 1rst amendment, they can do whatever they like with their business, but what they cannot be allowed to do is to control a significant portion of the public's communications, and censor it.

62 posted on 08/14/2018 9:05:49 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: neverevergiveup

“The left are unencumbered by ethics or morality, and this is something that should never be forgotten. “

Unencumbered by reason, too. The only thing they understand is force. Good post.


63 posted on 08/14/2018 9:07:43 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Jeff Sessions IS the insurance policy)
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To: DiogenesLamp
...if they can't stop black people from sitting at their lunch counter, they can't stop anyone else either.

Ha. No shoes, no shirt, no service.

Happens every day and it’s perfectly legal.

When will you accept that political viewpoint isn’t a protected class under our laws?

64 posted on 08/14/2018 9:08:34 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: OddLane

I hope other platforms emerge.


65 posted on 08/14/2018 9:10:09 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: semimojo
The farmer in 1890 could not build his own railroad because he lacked adequate capital. Conservative and patriotic content providers lack capital as well to prepare effective alternatives to big tech. It is as wrong for YouTube or Facebook to block non leftist content as it would be for the electric utilities to cut off power to their political opponents.
66 posted on 08/14/2018 9:11:15 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: semimojo
And your answer is to abandon the Constitution and the rule of law.

Going in the direction you advocate will lose us both. As i've said before, you will trade a lesser principle (absolute property rights for communications companies) for a greater principle. (Freedom of Speech, by which the public can hear both sides and chose the best path.)

With a communications monopoly such as you advocate, and *YES*, what you advocate is clearly going to lead to such an outcome, it will be impossible to educate the public on the dangers of socialism, and they will embrace it, as they have this foolish idea preached at them daily through every media system in America.

You would throw away our only means of stopping revolution. The communications systems of America cannot be allowed to be under the left's complete control. We should destroy it before we allow that to happen.

67 posted on 08/14/2018 9:12:22 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
...NO ONE* has suggested the government "take over" their private business.

The topic on the table is requiring censorous bastards to provide service equally to everybody.

I see the problem. You don’t think the government forcing me to publish anything at all on my private platform, regardless of my values, is the government “taking over my business”.

Good night.

68 posted on 08/14/2018 9:15:15 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: semimojo
When will you accept that political viewpoint isn’t a protected class under our laws?

I don't believe in protected classes, I believe in protecting everybody, and an absolute necessity to accomplishing this goal is to insure that no one party controls the power of communications in the nation.

69 posted on 08/14/2018 9:15:31 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Lurkinanloomin
I do too, but at this point that is wishing for a miracle. These are mega billion monsters we are dealing with here, and they already engage in monopolistic practices to protect their cartel.

I fear that if the government isn't used to smash them, they cannot be smashed.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1029380627546746883.html

70 posted on 08/14/2018 9:17:33 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: semimojo
I see the problem. You don’t think the government forcing me to publish anything at all on my private platform, regardless of my values, is the government “taking over my business”.

More dishonesty. Google/YouTube isn't doing the publishing. Individuals are doing that. Google/YouTube is merely an infrastructure on which other people imprint their work.

And no, making them serve everybody equally is not taking over their business.

71 posted on 08/14/2018 9:20:58 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: OddLane

It’s frightening that whenever I mention the censorship of Alex Jones, the other person says something like “Oh well. Him!” Or they just make that face.

They don’t get it.

This is our fight now. They have come right out and said it. They will sacrifice some free speech for the “cause” of “social justice.”

Ben Shapiro: “’Social justice’ is the opposite of justice. Justice doesn’t need an adjective.”

Michael Rectenwald: To deconstructionists, the definition of “fact” is “something that is extremely difficult to deconstruct.”


73 posted on 08/14/2018 9:53:17 PM PDT by firebrand (Quotes might not be exact.)
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To: Chickensoup

Gab was already threatened, by MSN.


74 posted on 08/14/2018 9:56:08 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: DiogenesLamp

I’m repeating myself, but Bradbury did say (one “fireman” tells another) that censorship began with the people, not the government. Corporations, he would say today.


75 posted on 08/14/2018 9:58:33 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: John S Mosby

Yet Microsoft threatened Gab because of anti-Semitism.

We shouldn’t go by what is being censored. Censorship is censorship, although I can’t keep food down when I read some sites.


76 posted on 08/14/2018 10:02:12 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: neverevergiveup

I could tell you some of what Facebook does. They don’t give you a sequential feed when you sign on, but something they call “Top Stories,” which of course they get to select, even though it sounds like it’s the most clicked-on ones.

Then when you manually switch to your sequential feed, the page won’t scroll down.

They pick the people that you will see on your feed. Some have said you only see 7% of your friends at any one time. It’s supposed to depend on how often you “like,” share, or comment, but since it’s hidden, who knows what other factors come into it.

There’s more that I don’t know, including some that I suspect.

On YouTube, they silently cancel your subscriptions or edit your videos that come up on the first page that you see, trying to tempt you with the most harmless of your interests and steer you away from what they don’t like. And of course demonetize. I also find the search function less and less useful. It doesn’t seem to bring up exactly what you’re looking for, as it used to in the past.


77 posted on 08/14/2018 10:12:12 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: firebrand
I guess what I'm asking is how difficult it is to replicate the basic parts of what they do. Seems to me that it's all some code and some servers, without a lot else. If that's the case, they should be very vulnerable to competition. You could probably organize a bunch of FReeper types to use their individual computers as online servers and come up with enough cloud computing power to begin competing against these entities.
78 posted on 08/14/2018 10:28:53 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: lee martell

#23. Pam’s life has been in danger a number of times, esp. at the Garland, Texas affair. Two dead jihadist hitmen!!


79 posted on 08/14/2018 10:30:51 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: neverevergiveup

It’s been tried. Nobody wants to start over again gathering a nice slate of “friends.” It’s a network. Hard to duplicate a thriving network.

The Left seems to have waited until everyone was hooked on these addictions and then started inching the gate closed.

We’re probably all going to have to go cold turkey to get off these things. I keep being tripped up socially by not having a smartphone. People assume I can get their emails wherever I am, and then the signals are crossed if something changes. Even those who know forget, because it’s become something we take so much for granted.


80 posted on 08/14/2018 10:40:45 PM PDT by firebrand
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