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I Know You’re Mad at United but… (Thoughts from a Pilot Wife About Flight 3411)
The Pilot's Wife ^ | 4/11/17 | AngeliaJGriffin

Posted on 04/13/2017 9:36:43 AM PDT by Impala64ssa

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To: wbill

Sometimes you don’t insist. Sometimes it isn’t worth the downside, you think about the people depending on you and bite your lip while bowing your head.
Sometimes it comes over you...not this time.. and then you go for it. I can understand the impulse, he may be thinking the better of it now. People get tired of being pushed around and they take a stand. I do believe that’s why we are not Brits.


101 posted on 04/13/2017 12:14:25 PM PDT by JayGalt
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To: Captain Peter Blood
The thing they could have done is kept upping the price until someone took the deal.

I generally agree with that although I suppose even with that approach, there could always be the potential for an unresolved situation to occur.

Airlines generally handle this call for ‘volunteers’ quite poorly. Having been on numerous planes when the call went out, my experience is that there is rarely enough information upon which to base an informed decision as to whether to take the offer or no…. What are various plane options that they could put you on to if you accept their offer? What are the details with the options…. i.e. What is the expected departure time? What is the routing with the plane(s) they want to put you on? What are the ETAs for the interim and final destination points? Are there any implications for baggage? Who is picking up the tab for the hotel one might have been checking into since it is now too late to cancel that and so charges will apply regardless of whether one checks in or not? Etc etc etc.

102 posted on 04/13/2017 12:15:02 PM PDT by hecticskeptic
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To: texteacher

This whole thing, while sad is comedy GOLD.


103 posted on 04/13/2017 12:15:18 PM PDT by JayGalt
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To: JayGalt
We need people who are comfortable asserting their authority in some situations; we need cops. I respect them and their service.

I absolutely agree that we're fortunate to have people with the mindset to be in the military and law enforcement. There are bad people in the world, and we need good guys willing to take them on head-to-head. Where I hesitate in giving my full respect is that it seems like there is too much of a tendency to cover up for their own when some DO go over the line. Too many (most likely a large majority) take an "us against them" attitude, even when someone on their side uses unnecessary force.

104 posted on 04/13/2017 12:18:55 PM PDT by Wissa (I took a little stroll to the Red Dog Saloon.)
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To: ridesthemiles

He also lost his license for about 10 years, but the reason was murky on the TV.

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How accurate I don’t know......
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Dao’s own medical license was suspended in 2003 following his arrest on charges including
unlawful prescribing and trafficking in a controlled substance.

He was accused of providing prescriptions for Vicodin and other narcotics to a former patient
he later hired as his office manager, who was identified in news reports at the time as Brian Case.

The men repeatedly hooked up in motels, with Dao paying Case around $200 each time and also
sharing in the drugs, according to a 130-page file compiled by the Kentucky Board of
Medical Licensure.

On the day he was busted, Dao was secretly videotaped with Case in a Red Carpet Inn in Jefferson
County, Ky., “with his shirt off and his pants undone,” the records say.

He agreed to surrender his medical license in 2005, but had it provisionally reinstated in 2015
so he could work one day a week for another doctor in Elizabethtown.

http://nypost.com/2017/04/11/doctor-dragged-off-flight-convicted-of-trading-drugs-for-sex/#.


105 posted on 04/13/2017 12:24:48 PM PDT by deport
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To: deport

http://fox13now.com/2017/04/11/doctor-dragged-off-flight-previously-lost-medical-license-for-drug-crimes/

The site reported Dr. Dao was charged with 98 felony drug counts for illegally prescribing
and trafficking painkillers in 2005.

Dr. Dao was also convicted on six felony counts of obtaining drugs by fraud and deceit and
got five years probation in 2005, according to TMZ.

According to legal documents TMZ found, Dao was also convicted for writing prescriptions
and checks to a patient in exchange for sex.

In the documents Dao denies paying for sex but admits to accepting sexual favors from an
associate who owed him money.


106 posted on 04/13/2017 12:29:42 PM PDT by deport
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To: Impala64ssa

“If a federal law enforcement officer asks me to exit a plane, no matter how royally pissed off I am, I’m going to do it and then seek other means of legal reimbursement. True story.”

If a Federal Law Enforcement Officer tells you get in the boxcar, are you going to do that?


107 posted on 04/13/2017 12:34:36 PM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: HotHunt

I usually go to a pipe show outside of Chicago, a 14 hour drive from here. I usually go with some friends, and it’s a blast, leaving a trail of fragrant pipe smoke the whole way there and the whole way back, something we would not be able to do if we would fly.


108 posted on 04/13/2017 12:35:21 PM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Little Ray

Good question.


109 posted on 04/13/2017 12:36:20 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: RedStateRocker

It is in the small print - the contract says they get to boot you if they need your seat for someone with higher priority.

Doesn’t make me happy about what happens. I hope United suffers for it.


110 posted on 04/13/2017 12:38:42 PM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: colorado tanker

“Because if you choose to take advantage of the services the airport provides, you play by their rules.”

If the airline chooses to take my money they need to provide the services they sold. Overbooking was their problem, not mine.


111 posted on 04/13/2017 12:49:00 PM PDT by alternatives? (Why have an army if there are no borders?)
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To: alternatives?

Well said.


112 posted on 04/13/2017 12:49:52 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Leaning Right

Abnormal behavior is an indication of head trama as is aggressive behavior. If he has a smart lawyer that could work in his favor.


113 posted on 04/13/2017 1:07:06 PM PDT by suthener
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To: Little Ray

“I hope United suffers for it.”

Consumers will suffer with increased costs and wait times. The next time someone throws a tantrum on a plane, everyone will have to grin and bear it. Special counselors will have to be hired by the airlines to come in and ‘mediate’ a solution.

Passengers will have to wait hours and miss their connecting flights because the airlines are now forced to coddle mentally ill hysterical drama queens.


114 posted on 04/13/2017 1:09:42 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Obama voters killed America. Treat them accordingly.)
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To: Little Ray

I know it’s in the fine print.

So, if somewhere on page 345 of the mortgage you signed it said they could harvest your organs or sell your kids into slavery it would be cool with some people on here (”well, you agreed to the terms and conditions...


115 posted on 04/13/2017 1:15:26 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Hmm, a pilot’s wife. I wonder how much United paid her to spew this nonsense?

Y’know what, Mrs. Pilot’s Wife? This passenger’s situation aside, sometimes people panic on planes. This might, on occasion, cause them to yell and run around. That doesn’t entitle anyone to bash their faces on armrests. What you do is deal with the situation calmly.

End of story.

And hurry up, if you’re gonna cash that check from United. It might bounce on you, by the time this doctor’s lawyer gets through with the Unfriendly Skies.


116 posted on 04/13/2017 1:19:42 PM PDT by lbtbell
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To: ridesthemiles

The Republic crew could have done the same thing and saved everyone a lot of drama and aggravation.


117 posted on 04/13/2017 1:22:41 PM PDT by wordsofearnest (Proper aim of giving is to put the recipient in a state where he no longer needs it. C.S. Lewis)
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To: Impala64ssa

I am not buying her arguments at all. United is the one at fault, not the consumer. Stuff your fine print where the sun don’t shine. Flying now is nothing but abuse.


118 posted on 04/13/2017 1:35:56 PM PDT by 1scrappymom (No, I am not a Republican. I am a CONSERVATIVE. PROUD ARMY MOM)
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To: RedStateRocker

That is why I always cross my fingers.
It might not be legally binding, but I won’t feel bad about shooting the bastards if they try to collect...

Airplanes are a bit different. I know the plane is overbooked. I won’t volunteer, but I won’t argue if I am kicked off for a higher priority. I have been through worse.


119 posted on 04/13/2017 1:42:20 PM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: Impala64ssa

I agree with the author for the most part.
Two big mistakes were made.
1. Not increasing the compensation until folks volunteered(this will now be the case......guaranteed)

2. The law officers were waaay out of line and pushed this situation over the cliff.


120 posted on 04/13/2017 1:49:24 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy
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