Posted on 05/22/2016 8:02:30 PM PDT by pboyington
Someone,A General I believe, once said,
“Why would you want to take what is so wonderful about being a woman, nurturing etc, and replace it with what is so horrid about being a man, war, fighting, killing?”
not a direct quote, but close I think
HOW DO YOU SET “QUOTAS” ON A volunteer force...???
++++++++I’m a Vietnam combat vet, not an 11 Bravo infantryman, but a former Huey door gunner who has inserted many infantrymen into combat situations, and then picked them up again as the mission required.
Please don’t tell me that women could have stood along side these brave men and pulled their own weight. It’s laughable to even consider it.
These men with their 100+lb. combat loads to include weapons and ammo had a rough time of it on their own.++++++++
As an Air Mobile 11Bravo I have always wondered why slick pilots would hover a few feet above ground for us to jump down so they wouldn’t get their skids muddy. (just kidding though) Climbing out of a mudhole in full gear after jumping off the skids and getting buried up to the thighs in mud, under fire (thank God for door gunners on hot LZ’s) was never a scenario practiced in training.
As if the screams of wounded men wasn’t enough.
Thanks
The screams of a wounded Joy Behar or Rosie O’Donnell I think I can handle.
Ditto, same goes for Fire and LEO.
Or any other job that requires muscles and stamina. Why should a person holding a stop/go sign be paid more than the man who is actually fixing a bridge?
As the daughter of a WW2 Veteran who fought under Gen. MacArthur, women would not have made it through what my dad did for 6 years. 5 major battles and the final was taking the “ROCK”. Where he and a PFC volunteered to climb a telegraph pole under sniper fire to put our Flag back up on Corregidor. 503RD Airborne.
We are a career Military family, have had men in 4 of the 5 branches of service since WW2, many went career. Hubby was part of Frequent Wind, the Cuban Missile Crisis. AND NO he doesn’t get a LARGE Navy Pension for 20 years of low pay service. Ret. SCPO started as a E-1. Pay back then stunk.
Omaha Beach D Day was worse.
Dad told a few stories about his time in the Philippines WW2, but sanitized them for us girls. Uncle Earl would not talk about his time under Merrill. 6 year hitch. My male cousins don’t talk about Nam either as we were a large family many were drafted or volunteered. Their hatred of Draft Dodgers is as bad as it is of Hanoi Jane.
NASCAR is supposed to be all left turns. But Dannica insists on making right turns during races. (IOW she is the cause of wrecks during the races).
are you saying women like the one in the link below can’t fight if they choose ?
http://proteinfart.com/23-yr-old-russian-girl-benches-375lbs-and-looks-insanely-huge/
13foxtrot:
Booya brother!
It is noteworthy that a woman you know was on the triathlon team. But the problem is that the three exercises they do in triathlon are swimming, running, and bike riding. None of these points equate to carrying a heavy sack, a weapon, or a body and running 100 years in a firefight. Sports is one thing and can be considered. But none of the exercises she does compares to the need to protect herself, her unit, or the finalization of the mission. Thank you for the entry.
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You above most know the needs of the downrange scenario. One of the major problems with the combat requirements is the need for upper body strength, which women don't have due to their DNA alone. And there is no training that can build the musculature to handle it. Whereas I don't necessary agree that women can't be prepared for war psychologically as women have in history displayed the ability to aggression, but the required controlled reactive emotions and physically preparation for this type of work may not be possible, especially the physical. red
I agree. Girls still need to pass the schools. Also, I trust the Army figure out if an officer does not have the right stuff. Same as they do with male officers.
13foxtrot,
At the moment, to my knowledge, they aren’t just trying to grow officers for command status downrange. They are talking about placing women in the direct line of a firefight and having to have the tools necccesary and firing on all cylinders coming our of the chute. You and I know the one area they will not have available to them is the physical strength pertaining to upper body needs like they should have. Women are just not built that way. They will put their unit in jeopardy. It’s not their fault, but it is the fault of stupid thinking to get them there to fail. And that is the head shed.
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