Posted on 02/04/2016 3:07:11 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
Very interesting over 3M vs 225K and the best ground game nets Cruz one more delegate than Trump.
What most likely got the extra delegate was the gutter politics Cruz played;
WOW! Karl Rove Explains How Cruz Camp’s Cheating Stole Iowa from Trump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocgEmgXXwF8
What I also don’t get about this whole meme is that Rubio is the one who really overperformed relative to expectations. And his people tweeted out the same thing about Carson dropping out. So it would seem logical to put this on Rubio. The assumption being made is that 1/4 of Carson’s projected caucus votes left him and went to Cruz because of this. I call BS on it again.
Some people are arguing 4 people in each of the 1500 precincts switched. That’s the wrong way to look at it. To expect that 6,000+ voters left him, leaving 17,000 votes requires either EXTREMELY soft support for Carson or massive stupidity on the part of his caucus leads. And it also requires you to believe they went to Cruz and not Rubio. But let’s not let facts get in the way of a good outrage!
That's a very good point and the fact that the entire media spin is against Cruz is very telling. The bubble boy is safe and sound in his bubble.
Some people are arguing 4 people in each of the 1500 precincts switched. Thatâs the wrong way to look at it. To expect that 6,000+ voters left him, leaving 17,000 votes requires either EXTREMELY soft support for Carson or massive stupidity on the part of his caucus leads. And it also requires you to believe they went to Cruz and not Rubio. But letâs not let facts get in the way of a good outrage!
That 4 per is pulled out of someone's ars. Our caucus was total chaos. When the speeches were over precinct captains read scripts but could not be heard over all of the noise. Finally he held up his little green paper ballot which signaled it was FINALLY time to turn in our votes. Then we got out of there having burned 3 hours of our lives. There was NO I repeat NO communication about anything. The female precinct captain of the precinct sitting next to us was more audible than ours and she just apologized for the chaos.
meh
He got out way more voters than all previous Iowa events. Both for and again
Can’t have it both ways. Either Cruz out hustled a trump machine or trump failed because he had no ground game
Either way trump is one delegate behind cruz
Good point!
Some have told me Cruz's apology was hollow and weak, and he should have fired those responsible.
Should he do that for the optics, no matter what? Or, is it possible that he heard all the facts and rightly judged it was a forgivable offense (and let the outsiders have their pound of flesh)?
Another Freeper pointed out that there is word that bubble boy(Rubio) started the rumor but remains in his bubble unscathed by accusation from the same left media. The ones who can't produce a single disgruntled Iowan who changed his vote.
It makes me want to say “Don’t be so gullible McFly!”.
You post the tweet @ post #56...but you haven't on this thread -- or any other you've posted on today or yesterday -- about this tweet re: the Rubio campaign. Why not? (If this is such a "moral indignation" issue to you?)
From Uh Oh, Was Marco Rubio Guilty In The Ben Carson Dropout Rumor?
Excerpt from this link: What has not been said much throughout the day is that Florida Senator Marco Rubioâs campaign worked actively to spread the message that Carson was leaving the presidential race. These actions were reported on Twitter by Conrad Close who, according to his Twitter profile, is the managing editor of Outset Magazine.
[You can go to the link to see a snapshot of Close's actual tweet...it reads:
Per the link above: "Another interesting little tidbit about Close, that he shouts from the rooftops with his Twitter profile picture, is that he is Team Rubio with the statement below his picture, 'Iâm voting for Marco Rubio.'
[So, it's not like Close was "anti-Rubio" & was attempting to sabotage him]
I call you & other FR posters out on this.
If you've ONLY targeted Cruz, who the Carson team went after ONLY a SINGLE Cruz staffer on this rumor...yet have ignored 100% Rubio, who Rush confirmed yesterday MULTIPLE staffers were involved in rumor-mongering...then it all comes across as crass exploitive targeted of THE front-runner...NOT as some moral issue sticking in your craw.
'Fess up.
The thing is Trump traded on his invincibility, and how everybody else was a loser.
That was kind of his whole gig... popped by Cruz in an evening
Why else did he slip 9 points in the PPP poll
That he came in 2nd demonstrated considerable leadership skills.
I’m still a Cruz guy though.
#6 I have known people like this.
Unfortunate that we do not have the best people running for president but only those that have time and money.
Well heck, then, I might as well run, because I can do the same thing.
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