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Posted on 01/23/2016 4:40:59 PM PST by Ted Grant

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To: Ted Grant
...It doesn't help the GOP-e's cause that they didn't show this level of nastiness and passion against Obama and the Democrats...

I'm glad you (or the original poster) highlight this point.

That was my first reaction when I saw that NRO cover with '11 Conservatives Against Trump'.
Where was this passion against Obama in 2008 - when it was clear we had a Marxist, Christian hating, American hating, fraud running for President? It was nonexistent.
Where was this passion regarding this Administration's desertion of our people in Benghazi? Just a bump in the road. Maybe a few harrumphs by these Media pundits - but no full page magazine cover calling them out.

How about Hillary's malfeasance in handling secure documents? Anyone else would be in jail. Again, just some minor tisk-tisks from these same Conservative members of the Chattering class. They don't want to lose their invitations to the best Washington D.C. parties, so they keep it low when attacking the in-house enemies in Washington D.C.

But sure, grow a spine and go after Trump.
Their opinions register zip on my Geiger counter. Or, if anything, it pushes me more into Trump's corner.

21 posted on 01/23/2016 5:17:37 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Bidimus1
Trump has never gotten a loan ? impressive oh wait... he has been in default for millions on loans.

I don't believe I ever said that. Trump has built literally hundreds of businesses putting 10s of thousands of people to work and making many millionaires. You may not understand how business works, so I'll give a crash course. You come-up with an idea, you seek financing and you build your businesses. If you are any good at it, it returns a profit and your financiers make money. If it fails you and your financiers loose. Now when you do it over 200 times and are successful more then 196 time, you are called very good at it. Unless you are talking to someone supporting a losing political candidate, they tend to refer to successful business people as scoundrels.
22 posted on 01/23/2016 5:18:57 PM PST by JoSixChip (Ted Cruz (R-Goldman Sachs) - losers are not winners)
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To: Ted Grant

Well reasoned and written. Many thing become clear to those who inform themselves on all sides of an issue and apply integrative thinking, rather than living in an echo chamber.


23 posted on 01/23/2016 5:21:09 PM PST by bigbob ("Victorious warriors win first ande then go to war" Sun Tzu.)
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To: JoSixChip

If it was not you intent to disparage Cruz for taking out (and paying back) a loan mu apologies

As far as Mr Trumps success.. then why not elect Blomberg or gates they also did quite well in business.

As I said if D.Trump really had a conservative conversion all well and good but he has shown little in his past for me to see it as real and much to say it is not..

Note I will vote for ANY one on the R ticket to keep hrc and bernie for selections USSC Justices.


24 posted on 01/23/2016 5:23:51 PM PST by Bidimus1
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To: JoSixChip

On the policy issues No did he do anything to stop them as he is a political gadfly most of the time. Well he did run for pres on the Ross Perot party but did not get the nomination loosing to Pat Buchanan.


25 posted on 01/23/2016 5:26:58 PM PST by Bidimus1
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To: Ted Grant
I've called Trump the expected equal and opposite reaction to Obama.

The opposite reaction to Obama would be a conservative. Trump is not a conservative. You are correct in saying that some (in my opinion, gullible) conservatives are projecting their hopes and dreams onto Trump, just as liberals did with Obama, but while the liberals got much of what they want, given Trump's record and obvious lack of a defining conservative ideology, conservatives will not.

We will not see a significantly smaller, less costly, and less intrusive government after a Trump Administration - Every indication, based on Trump's own words and record, is that it would be significantly worse. And that assumes that he can even rise above his polarizing negatives to be elected in the first place.

26 posted on 01/23/2016 5:29:26 PM PST by LouD
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To: Bidimus1

You might want to rethink that since Elmer has stated that his liberal sister, a federal judge, would make an excellent SCOTUS Justice.


27 posted on 01/23/2016 5:30:36 PM PST by jwalsh07 (.w)
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To: Ted Grant

Exactly!


28 posted on 01/23/2016 5:36:00 PM PST by yuleeyahoo ( Man does not control his own fate. The women in his life do that for him. - Groucho Marx)
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To: Ted Grant

It’s worse than just the GOP leadership being process oriented and the Dem leadership being goal oriented: The GOP-leadership process has been doing nothing but helping the Dem-leadership goals.


29 posted on 01/23/2016 5:38:49 PM PST by Vision Thing
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To: JoSixChip

“Did he? last I heard he wouldn’t even acknowledge that he borrowed the money.”

Gosh images were posted here, that showed the loan was reported to the Senate in July 2012.

So are stupid or a liar like Trump?


30 posted on 01/23/2016 5:51:29 PM PST by Leto
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To: Georgia Girl 2
They wet their beaks in the same pond.

Perfect! LOL!

31 posted on 01/23/2016 6:07:57 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Bidimus1
then why not elect Blomberg or gates they also did quite well in business.

Is blomberg going to build a wall? is he going to deport all, not a few, but all illegals? is blomberg going make trade deals that benefit Americans by bring jobs back? Is blomberg going to reduce taxes? If so, I'm certainly willing to consider him. But blomberg does have a record of nanny state accomplishments that he would have to renounce.
32 posted on 01/23/2016 6:08:35 PM PST by JoSixChip (Ted Cruz (R-Goldman Sachs) - losers are not winners)
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To: sergeantdave
They simply don't believe in the agents of conservatism they have entrusted with power.

Needs to be said a few million more times.

33 posted on 01/23/2016 6:15:05 PM PST by The Iceman Cometh (Trumpbots Vs. Cruznadians - the struggle is real.)
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To: Bidimus1

“Sorry but the free speech for me and not the does not really work for me..”

My apologies, good sir.


34 posted on 01/23/2016 6:17:29 PM PST by sergeantdave ( If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: JoSixChip
Is blomberg going to build a wall? is he going to deport all, not a few, but all illegals? is blomberg going make trade deals that benefit Americans by bring jobs back? Is blomberg going to reduce taxes? If so, I'm certainly willing to consider him. But blomberg does have a record of nanny state accomplishments that he would have to renounce.

And that's all it would take?

35 posted on 01/23/2016 6:17:30 PM PST by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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To: Hildy

False negative, due to a Freeper who misunderstood the parameters of the issue, which only occurs on quoted text.


36 posted on 01/23/2016 6:19:10 PM PST by Company Man (Keep Calm and Carry.)
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To: JoSixChip

my comment was to the fact that it seems to many the bluster of what Mr Trump says he will do... (few details on how.. other than.. “good management”) is conflated with his record as a business man.

I would like to point out that much of that record would be anathema to many that now support him had he still been saying things like his comment about san fan nan...

“because I want her to do great, and I want this country to be great, and I [didn’t] want her to fail as Speaker. And I like her.”

for all those that seem to hate the uniparty that also like the donald there should be some serous logical issues trying to hold them both.

“I met her a number of times and I liked her,” he added. “And I really want her and everybody in office to do great. so because of the fact that i met her a number of times and really liked her, and then she became Speaker, I sent her a note. And I wanted her, and I continue to want her and everybody else in office, to do great for the country”

Note this is all in the last 9 years.


37 posted on 01/23/2016 6:21:49 PM PST by Bidimus1
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To: Starstruck
And that's all it would take?

At least read the damn post before you respond. Jeez!
38 posted on 01/23/2016 6:30:41 PM PST by JoSixChip (Ted Cruz (R-Goldman Sachs) - losers are not winners)
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To: jwalsh07

Trump also said he would not consider his sister for the Supremes.... apparently you do not have a sister, or you would understand what a brother says about his sister...


39 posted on 01/23/2016 6:31:45 PM PST by freespirit2012
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To: JoSixChip
At least read the damn post before you respond. Jeez!

So you didn't write what you wrote?

40 posted on 01/23/2016 6:33:17 PM PST by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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