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Ted Cruz Presents Ambitious Tax Plan: A 10% Flat Tax for Everybody
PJ Media ^ | 11-09-2015 | Michael van der Galien

Posted on 11/09/2015 4:38:54 AM PST by Michael van der Galien

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To: Michael van der Galien

This is talking about a flat tax rate, not a flat tax.


41 posted on 11/09/2015 6:25:13 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country)
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To: lewislynn

While I like many aspects of this plan, I would like it better if - like the personal income deduction of $36k - if the 16% business tax rate allowed for wages to be deducted out of the first $1MM of revenue.

But, still, we’re pretty crazy if we wouldn’t take this plan over the current byzantine tax code.


42 posted on 11/09/2015 6:33:08 AM PST by bolobaby
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To: Michael van der Galien

great!


43 posted on 11/09/2015 6:36:11 AM PST by dadfly
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To: lewislynn

Wow, I don’t think you understand. A small business owner would pay himself a salary. That would be a deduction against gross receipts so he would pay 10% versus 16%. On the personal tax side, he would qualify for the 36,000 family deduction as well.


44 posted on 11/09/2015 6:36:38 AM PST by BillM (.)
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To: 9YearLurker

Yes, this is a huge problem. I generally like Cruz, but anyone who suggests a VAT sets of really loud alarm bells.

I have to suspect he sees it as the only way to get the budget under control. I think he’s wrong.


45 posted on 11/09/2015 6:39:30 AM PST by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: bolobaby
If-if-if.
But, still, we're pretty crazy if we wouldn't take this plan over the current byzantine tax code.
This plan looks like it was written on cocktail napkins the night before the last debate.

Cruz loves legislation and debate.

This plan would be a legislative nightmare if it wasn't debated to it's rightful death.

46 posted on 11/09/2015 6:46:10 AM PST by lewislynn
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To: lewislynn

What’s your preferred plan?


47 posted on 11/09/2015 6:47:52 AM PST by bolobaby
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To: lewislynn

(And, also, for the record, I prefer eliminating ALL business taxes, as businesses really don’t GET taxed. It’s a cost that ultimately gets passed along to the consumer. So, I’d take a higher flat tax in favor of eliminating the obfuscation of “business taxes,” which are just an indirect tax on the consumer. In the end, though, I don’t even like flat taxes, but they are a step in the right direction. I’d rather see a flat tax on all consumption by individuals.)


48 posted on 11/09/2015 6:50:16 AM PST by bolobaby
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To: BillM
Sorry, you're the one who doesn't understand. What you describe makes sense.

The Cruz tax plan is a gross receipts tax including wages. That's why some people are calling it a VAT tax.

49 posted on 11/09/2015 6:53:52 AM PST by lewislynn
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To: Michael van der Galien

“How does a flat tax of 10% sound? And that only for income over $36.000?”

So, it’s not really “A 10% Flat Tax for Everybody”.


50 posted on 11/09/2015 7:23:30 AM PST by moovova
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To: moovova

Exactly. It has to be for everybody. That’s why government is out of control, and you have two classes in the US. If everyone knew they were billing themselves for things that are ‘free’, they’d realize it isn’t free anymore.

Again, the stupid party at work.


51 posted on 11/09/2015 7:26:13 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: Abby4116

the so called fair tax vs the so call flat tax should be combined. The fair tax...taxing goods and services, cept medical, medicine, food and capitol real estate, would wipe out the underground economy and make EVERYONE pay a little. Say 4 or 5%? Then 10% flat tax. No deductions.

If we just use the flat tax illegals and the underground economy get off free.


52 posted on 11/09/2015 7:30:21 AM PST by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket.l)
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To: RinaseaofDs

“Exactly. It has to be for everybody.”

And, I’ll take it one step further.

No more auto-deductions from your paycheck. No auto-bankdrafts. You write & mail a check to the IRS at the end of every month or quarter (or, present a postal money order to the local IRS office if you don’t have a checking account).

If you’re late, there’s a 10 percent penalty plus interest, until paid.

People should feel the “burn” every time they write that check.


53 posted on 11/09/2015 7:45:32 AM PST by moovova
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To: bolobaby
I prefer eliminating ALL business taxes, as businesses really don’t GET taxed. It’s a cost that ultimately gets passed along to the consumer.
If taxes aren't a cost burden to businesses then it would make more sense to tax only businesses and eliminate the individual tax altogether.
54 posted on 11/09/2015 7:49:26 AM PST by lewislynn
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To: Michael van der Galien

I think it is too progressive. Everyone should pay the same AMOUNT, say 500 dollars or some such, just like the Israelites of old.


55 posted on 11/09/2015 8:13:54 AM PST by sportutegrl
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To: Michael van der Galien

bkmk


56 posted on 11/09/2015 9:55:38 AM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: moovova

I love it. Perfect. The USG should bear the expense of dealing with taxes, not businesses. Same with unemployment, medicare, etc.


57 posted on 11/09/2015 10:57:43 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: plewis1250

“Not only is it 10% flat rate for everyone....”

Not so. The article states.....a family of four doesn’t have to pay a dime to Washington D.C. over the first $36.000 they make.


58 posted on 11/09/2015 11:06:26 AM PST by panaxanax ( Cruz/West 2016)
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To: lewislynn

No, that’s ludicrous. It’s a dishonest way to tax people since the real taxpayer still is the consumer, just through the tax being baked into the cost.

You still didn’t answer my question. Do you have an answer, or are you just whinging?


59 posted on 11/09/2015 11:07:24 AM PST by bolobaby
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To: panaxanax
Exactly.
It is only a tax against anything ABOVE $36,000.
60 posted on 11/09/2015 11:50:50 AM PST by plewis1250 (The pecking order: Christian, American, Conservative)
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