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Ted Cruz Presents Ambitious Tax Plan: A 10% Flat Tax for Everybody
PJ Media ^ | 11-09-2015 | Michael van der Galien

Posted on 11/09/2015 4:38:54 AM PST by Michael van der Galien

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To: Michael van der Galien

How do you fund Obamacare, since the Supreme Court said that it is a tax?

Obamacare is not going away. The GoPee wants it as well as the rats.


21 posted on 11/09/2015 5:21:28 AM PST by Dacula (Southern lives matter!)
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To: jdsteel

If 10% goes to Jesus. then it’s blasphemous to give anything close to that to government.


22 posted on 11/09/2015 5:21:37 AM PST by all the best
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To: Michael van der Galien

Great. If flat tax means truly that - NO deductions, exemptions, etc. With all the whining about “the rich” not paying their “fair share” (whatever that is) - it is often left unsaid that the real way they don’t pay is using all the loopholes. How often have we heard that Rockefellers, Kennedys, GE - all paid $0 in taxes? So don’t raise the percentage - but make them pay their “fair share” - which is the same as everyone else. 10 percent of several million dollars is a lot more than 0.


23 posted on 11/09/2015 5:23:38 AM PST by smalltownslick
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To: Michael van der Galien

And we just keep spending like there’s no tomorrow.


24 posted on 11/09/2015 5:23:38 AM PST by all the best
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To: Michael van der Galien

It would be an increase on the poor, and a decrease on the semi-rich (not megarich) so it will never fly. No way in hell will this country ever get back to everyone paying a real fair share, the definition of “fair share” has been forever hijecked by the leftists.


25 posted on 11/09/2015 5:25:41 AM PST by Travis T. OJustice (I miss my dad.)
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To: cripplecreek
Now if only I could do something about my state and local taxes.

Exactly that, of course, is how it is or should be. Tax less federally and tax more state & locally.

The closer those suckers are to you the easier it is to get rid of them or that is the theory. Also, you can more easily go see them to discuss/complain, etc.

26 posted on 11/09/2015 5:28:07 AM PST by citizen (America is-or was-The Great Melting Pot. JEB won't even speak American in his own home. NO Bush!!)
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To: Michael van der Galien

Since the median family income in America is about 50,000, iirc, that means half of America will pay annually something between zero and $1500. But, remember, Cruz says this INCLUDES SSN and MED, which are about 7% of current adjusted income that probably comes to about 40000 for most people. So they’re paying 2800 now.

For me, it would be about half of what I’m paying now.

Those who get checks back from the government based on things like earned income credit will see it as hurting them

You almost want to charge them something so you can send it back to them.


27 posted on 11/09/2015 5:28:58 AM PST by xzins (HAVE YOU DONATED TO THE FREEPATHON? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: USS Alaska

“Where did you get the idea that a VAT is part of his plan?”

This article from Forbes suggests that his “Business Flat Tax” is actually a VAT:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielmitchell/2015/10/29/ted-cruzs-tax-plan-is-pro-growth-and-reins-in-the-irs-but-there-is-one-worrisome-feature/


28 posted on 11/09/2015 5:30:32 AM PST by GIdget2004
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To: Michael van der Galien

Cruz keeps the Child Care and EI Credits in some form.


29 posted on 11/09/2015 5:30:32 AM PST by stylin19a (obama = Fredo Smart)
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To: USS Alaska

The business flat tax is just a business transfer tax by another name. The business will pass the costs directly on to the consumer, so it will have roughly the same effect as a sales tax. Much like in PA recently where the fuel tax was implmented as a “corporate tax” on businesses, but we can now see that it was passed on 100% to the consumer to give us some of the highest gas prices in the US.


30 posted on 11/09/2015 5:31:08 AM PST by LambSlave
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To: USS Alaska

As opposed to the current business tax which is based onn profits, Cruz’s proposed business tax is on revenues less some deductions for rhings like equipment purchases.


31 posted on 11/09/2015 5:32:16 AM PST by oincobx
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To: Travis T. OJustice
It would be an increase on the poor,...

I don't know any poor people who make $36,000.

32 posted on 11/09/2015 5:33:10 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (To win the country back, we need to be as mean as the libs say we are.)
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To: USS Alaska

That’s because the details are in how that 16% corporate tax is calculated. It is a VAT.


33 posted on 11/09/2015 5:34:09 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: TangoLimaSierra

I would feel absolutely poor if I made that amount. If you have a kid, at that income, one currently qualifies for the Earned Income Cerdit, so the media would definitely consider them poor for purposes of advancing thei leftist agenda.


34 posted on 11/09/2015 5:35:46 AM PST by Travis T. OJustice (I miss my dad.)
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To: Michael van der Galien

we need a sales tax too. If you live here you need to be responsible...IMO


35 posted on 11/09/2015 5:42:49 AM PST by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket.l)
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To: citizen

Yeah, I’ve always said that the same taxes would be far more palatable at the state and local level where I have greater control.

Nothing I hate more than paying taxes so someone on the other side of the country can get an app for their phone that finds them empty parking spaces.


36 posted on 11/09/2015 5:48:25 AM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: Michael van der Galien

Does that include only Fed Withholding? Or does it include Medicare and SS?


37 posted on 11/09/2015 5:51:52 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: rrrod
You'll get your sales tax built in the cost of whatever you buy - tax on gross, not profits means a hefty tax to the business, especially one who employs several people (whose salaries are NOT included in the deductions).

H1B employees are going to be in demand since they make much less than a comparable American employee.

38 posted on 11/09/2015 5:52:48 AM PST by Abby4116
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To: Michael van der Galien

Simple, elegant, and fundamentally sound.

And DOA with nearly 50% of our gimmmedat voting population.

“No tax under $36K? What happened to my EITC?”


39 posted on 11/09/2015 6:01:57 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: USS Alaska
I read Cruz' tax plan on his web site, and while he has a 16% flat corporate tax rate vs the current rate of 35%,
Ignorance is bliss.

It's not a "corporate tax". Not all businesses, in fact few, are corporations.

Presently there is no such thing as a "business tax". The current top corporate tax rate is 35% of profits

The sCruz tax is 16% of all business income including profits minus business to business purchases...IOW, s/he would pay 16% tax on the money needed to keep the business afloat before it's even spent including employee's wages etc.

The small business owner's take home is from his profit. S/he would pay 16% through the business and then 10% again on the same profit for personal income.

The sCruz tax is paying for the eliminated corporate tax off the backs of small business owners and their employees. It looks like some of Cruz's big money corporate crony's had their slimy hands in designing his tax plan.

The almost laughable sCruz tax would be a small business and jobs killer.

40 posted on 11/09/2015 6:24:12 AM PST by lewislynn
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