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Goodbye Sweden
The Sweden Report ^ | 6/2/2015

Posted on 10/20/2015 8:04:26 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Lucy Hamilton

Gimme a break. Are you kidding???


81 posted on 10/20/2015 9:17:03 PM PDT by ALASKA (Disgusted.....)
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To: Lucy Hamilton
Europe has MORE guns than you’d LIKE to pretend we don’t have. Please stop INSISTING that “Europe is disarmed”, I’m sorry it’s getting really REALLY irritating.

You must have me confused with someone else. I never said Europe is disarmed. I did say that firearms are difficult to obtain. I lived a total of 13 years in Europe in five different countries. In the US we have the second amendment, i.e., the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Over the course of the 20th century, the UK gradually implemented tighter regulation of the civilian ownership of firearms through the enactment of the 1920, 1937, 1968, 1988 (amendment), and 1997 (amendment) Firearms Acts and [128] leading to the outright ban on the ownership of all automatic, and most self-loading, firearms in the UK. The ownership of breech-loading handguns is, in particular, also very tightly controlled and effectively limited (other than in Northern Ireland) to those persons who may require such a handgun for the non routine humane killing of injured or dangerous animals.

Ownership of most types of firearm in the UK requires either a Shotgun Certificate (SGC) or a Firearm Certificate (FAC). Both of these are issued by local police after the applicant has met the required criteria. For a Shotgun Certificate the applicant need to demonstrate that they can securely store the firearms (usually a gun safe bolted to a solid wall), have no criminal convictions, no history of any medical condition or disability including alcohol and drug related conditions, no history of treatment for depression or any other kind of mental or nervous disorder, or epilepsy. Once a SGC is granted the person is free to purchase single shot, multi-barreled and repeating shotguns of lever action, pump action or semi-automatic with non detachable magazine that hold no more than 2 rounds of ammunition, plus one in the breech. There is no restriction on the number of shotguns that can be held on a SGC nor are there any restrictions on the amount of ammunition one can possess. The shotguns can be used wherever one has permission.

The criteria required for the grant of a Firearm certificate are far more stringent. Alongside safe storage requirements and checks on previous convictions and medical records, the applicant must also demonstrated a Good reason for each firearm they wish to hold (Good reason may include hunting, pest control, collecting or target shooting). Police may restrict the type and amount of ammunition held, and where and how the firearms are used.

82 posted on 10/20/2015 9:17:48 PM PDT by kabar
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To: P-Marlowe

What’s incredibly ironic is that he describes the “refugees “ exactly the way Trump does...

” Jihadist Trojan horses are flowing through the porous border along with the tens of thousands ID-less refugees. ”

I would not be surprised that he got the “Trojan horse” reference from Trump.


83 posted on 10/20/2015 9:25:44 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: Lucy Hamilton

Lucy, I appreciate your comments, and I wish you the best. Keep fighting for the values of Old Britain and doing what you can to save her. I salute true patriots in any country, the situation in other Anglosphere and in many European countries seems dire now, not to mention my own country, the U.S.A. The globalists, Marxists and Muhammedans can be beaten, but only be determined patriots. Carry on!


84 posted on 10/20/2015 9:39:42 PM PDT by River Hawk
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To: SeekAndFind

Even with all of the lavish entitlements that form a very comfortable safety net for a Swede that falls ill or winds up in poverty, their system has worked well.

It worked because they were SWEDES!

It does NOT work after importing a load of pissed-off foreign freeloaders!

First their economy will falter, safety will be non-existent and the social foundations of Sweden will crumble.

Only an idiot would import miscreants into a functioning first-world nation like Sweden and expect it to survive.

We have done the same thing here.... we are governed by idiots who were elected by idiots.

IDIOCRACY is no longer a work of fiction... it is a documentary in progress. :-(


85 posted on 10/20/2015 9:39:52 PM PDT by Bobalu (Russians.... not ashamed of being white!)
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To: Lucy Hamilton

Dearborn, in the state of Michigan, and Hamtramk, also in Michigan, have huge populations of muslims.

Hamtamk, Michigan historically had a large population of Americans of Polish ancestry. Now, it’s primarily muslim.


86 posted on 10/20/2015 9:42:29 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Register liberals, not guns!)
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To: Lucy Hamilton

Actually, Lucy, America has a population of 330 million.


87 posted on 10/20/2015 9:44:42 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Register liberals, not guns!)
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To: Lizavetta

My fear is that those involved in this were neither paid off or threatened, and they are doing this because they are evil and arrogant.

Madmen who think that they will crash the train into the brick wall and build a new and better train from the flaming wreckage.


88 posted on 10/20/2015 9:47:24 PM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: Lucy Hamilton
We’re not disarmed. Only hand-guns are banned. Shotguns aren’t. Europe has firearms.

Unfortunately each and every weapon in Britain is registered with the police and require a certificate from the police. A registration list is a confiscation list. Just ask the Australians.

In addition with rare exceptions the public only has shotguns and that is on a need to possess basis such as farmers and hunting clubs. AR-15 or AR-10 verses a shotgun, unless up close, the rifle wins every time. The only unregistered weapons are in the hands of violent criminals.

I must add that Britain has a very low rate of murder. It is not due to the harsh gun laws, but the culture of the people in Britain. I lived in Berkshire for 3 years in the 70s when I was working in the North Sea. I have many fond memories of Britain and return every couple of years to visit friends.

89 posted on 10/20/2015 9:55:28 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR)
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To: Lucy Hamilton

‘Um, you’ll have to explain to me what this means.”

They once were the heart of the Detroit automotive industry that has since been destroyed by the unions, management, and socialist politicians.


90 posted on 10/20/2015 10:40:07 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: cpdiii

“I must add that Britain has a very low rate of murder. It is not due to the harsh gun laws, but the culture of the people in Britain.”

Unfortunately for Britons, this is simply wrong, because the official statistics are grossly under reported. The actual murder rate in Britain is actually higher than in the United States. For an explanation o why this is so, see the explanation of how the British authorities leave out a great proportion of the homicides from its statistics versus the U.S. statistics. See:

Extrano’s Alley, more than a gun blog
Compare US VS British Murder Rates

Posted on December 7, 2012 by Stranger
So England’s murder rate is 29.8 percent of the United States, right? Wrong.

Why? It is a matter of policy. As Chief Inspector Colin Greenwood points out here, the Home Office believes it unfair to brand a man a murderer until he has been tried, convicted, and exhausted his appeals.

As a result, murders that have not been solved are not included. If indications in the Telegraph are correct, that would substantially reduce the homicide rate in itself. Murders that have resulted in an arrest but no conviction are not counted. Convictions that have not been appealed are apparently not counted. And the number of minorities reported as murder victims is far below either the demographics or of reason.

If the media reports of a total of 4,760 “violent fatalities of interest to the police” from 1 January 2011 to 30 November 2012 are correct, the murder rate is 4.7 per 100,000 population, the same as our much more inclusive homicide rate, and substantially higher than the United States murder rate.
http://extranosalley.com/?p=35909


91 posted on 10/20/2015 11:01:51 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: Lucy Hamilton
We Europeans will take back are Continent from the traitors who are trying to destroy it. It’s coming, the day of reckoning is coming within the next 6 months..

Are you writing a fictional movie script about this? I say this because in the real world no one in Europe will be taking Europe from the traitors.

The vast majority of sadistic Statists that infest every European government are consolidating their power in a final push to crush those who opposing Socialism.

Liberty and the belief in individualism is being crushed worldwide by the boot of evil Statists.

I fear the only solution will be for the people in all Western nations to rise up and remove by any means necessary all those in government who brutalize their citizens and prostrate themselves before illegal scum.

92 posted on 10/21/2015 12:42:04 AM PDT by sand88 (We can never legislate our way back to Liberty)
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To: Lucy Hamilton
Across Europe we’re planning, there are many of us who have a joint plan....IF push comes to shove. I’m not elaborating, it wouldn’t be wise.

Lucy, Lucy, Lucy, I do so wish this was true. However, without weapons you will not be changing anything.

Foolish arrogant Europeans have always insulted Americans with their love of guns.

Well my dear, the primary reason the Founders put the 2nd Amendment in place is for when that terrible day arrives when those in government make the step to try and impose violent tyrannical rule, we the citizens can rise up and restore the Tree of Liberty by the proper means.

93 posted on 10/21/2015 12:51:06 AM PDT by sand88 (We can never legislate our way back to Liberty)
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To: SeekAndFind
There simply is no possible way to absorb and assimilate such volumes of people, period. Then you are merely creating ethnic enclaves, which due to incompatible language, culture and job skills become ghettos, which in turns brews crime, misery and extremism. Once the inflow has exceeded the capacity for absorbtion, further immigration only makes the problem worse.

Oh, the irony in referring to Trump as a racist ignoramus. Plenty of complaining, but he gets squeamish if someone seriously attempts to address the problem.

94 posted on 10/21/2015 4:17:28 AM PDT by CASchack
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To: SeekAndFind

I have waited too long to post on this topic and my answer is way down the list now, but I wanted to make a point about the poisonous nature of the left in the context of this guys lamentation about Sweden.
As I read the tirade, I was really beginning to believe he had seen the light with his raves about Obama and all the silly things the Government was doing. The description of Sweden as a cross between Animal Farm and Idiocracy was apt.
However, in reality, he is another liberal who fundamentally thinks that the Government of Sweden is only guilty of every liberals favorite fallback position, and that is they are guilty of doing Socialism wrong.
So, he will leave Sweden and come to USA and push hard for the exact same liberal policies and types of people for the leadership in our country in the hopes that we will finally get Socialism right.
His attacks on Trump as an 8 year old etc means that he will fight our every effort to stop what has happened to Sweden with vigor. Trump is the only one even talking about slowing and or halting the same flood that has overtaken Sweden, and his visceral response tells all.
So we have ourselves a true believer who will only sow the liberal poison despite the results. They see no connection between collectivism and these disasters, but only use the old Soviet excuse for everything. It was managed wrong.


95 posted on 10/21/2015 4:32:52 AM PDT by BRK
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To: SeekAndFind

Not that I will give up fighting the good fight; but I think it’s already too late. Corporatism has politicians in it’s pockets and the two of them realized that globalism is more lucrative than the welfare of the legal citizens of the USA. Millenials have been brainwashed into socialistic ideals by the propaganda machine via gubmint education, Hollywood, social media and MSM. We have become a huge “entitlement” culture and they like all the “free stuff”(their living in the MATRIX).

But the money will run out some day. THEY will have to “pay the piper”. As Jesus said, “do not weep for me...weep for yourselves and your children”. God help the future generations of America.


96 posted on 10/21/2015 4:33:40 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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To: Lucy Hamilton

In the US no one really knows how many people have firearms because we don’t register them. Media guesses at 300 million but I think that is low


97 posted on 10/21/2015 4:34:27 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: SeekAndFind

The author laments the decline of the Swedish military but neglects to mention his own service. I thought they had conscription until recently.


98 posted on 10/21/2015 4:37:21 AM PDT by MSF BU (Support the troops: Join Them.)
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To: BRK
So we have ourselves a true believer who will only sow the liberal poison despite the results. They see no connection between collectivism and these disasters, but only use the old Soviet excuse for everything. It was managed wrong.

Liberals will not see the light, even as the Republic crumbles around them. After things get bad enough, they will be swept aside and only return once the society is stabilized.

99 posted on 10/21/2015 4:44:08 AM PDT by CASchack
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To: Lucy Hamilton; Georgia Girl 2

100 posted on 10/21/2015 4:44:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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