With Half of the Students Chronically Absent, New Truancy Law Would Strip Welfare From Families

Michigan Capitol Confidential ^ | 10/13/2015 | Tom Gantert

[napscoordinator]

With a Republican Governor that is sad.

[DH]

Maybe they supply cages with them.

[mazda77]

The obvious answer would be that they are not taking government subsidies so the first amendment rules. If one is taking government subsidies, then the government has the right and obligation to set the standards for which to continue receiving it. Do they not do that to states?

Do you not remember the Welfare Reform Act signed into law by Clinton that did essentially the same thing? That is until the Democrats changed all of that with new law that opened the flood gates to abuse and corruption.

[stormer]

Then you are admitting the goal of the effort is not to stop truancy, but to punish the parents of truants who happen to be welfare recipients.

[Raymann]

I went to and have been to a lot of majority black schools and I agree. Whoever wrote that article has an agenda. The worst class I’ve seen had maybe 3-4 disruptive students out of 30. Granted it makes a mess of the whole class but even the most ‘ghetto’ students at least just sit in the back of the class and shut up while class is in session.

Black schools would be able to function 1000% better if they were allowed to kick out that 10%.

[mazda77]

So we just let them and their parents, who are ultimately responsible for them until adulthood, continue with the status quo? Just because we cannot punish the little creeps because they are minors? Yea, that brings to mind all sorts of things that are already wrong with this country and how we as a society address, or better yet do not address, responsibility.

[driftless2]

Yes, I've read the numerous articles from well-meaning teaches who go into mostly black classrooms thinking they can make a difference and find out otherwise.

But we'll never really know until all the disruptors are booted out. I'm not saying I believe the rest of the black students will turn into academic superstars, I'm just saying most of them will probably do better and have a better chance to turn into productive citizens instead of welfare leeches or criminals.

Of course, massive welfare reform will go along with booting the bad actors out of the schools. It would probably be a generation before we know the results. I'm not expecting miracles, but I can't believe things can go on like they're going on now.

[stormer]

I’m not addressing the issue of truancy, per se. I’m saying that this so-called solution will never be implemented. If one wishes to effect change, then one has to arrive at strategy that is legal, practical, doable, and has clearly defined and pertinent metrics.

[mazda77]

Understand, but what is not legal about it. They can’t do anything to the student without the legal measures to penalize the enabling or in most cases parents who have no effective control. It’s not like they have a job and have to be there instead of instilling discipline in their kids.

[stormer]

If the parents have no effective control, how can removing them from welfare roles compel their children to attend classes?

[mazda77]

They did not lose it, they gave it up long before. Responsibilities have consequences. Time to pay up.

[stormer]

Back to my original point: what are the consequences for families not on welfare?

[mazda77]

If they are not on subsidies it has nothing to do with the issue. Trying to make your argument an equal protection case has no merit, period because neither are equal to begin with.