Posted on 07/14/2015 7:01:59 PM PDT by Art in Idaho
A must-read article.
AND...we had the White HOuse the Senate and the House with Bush.....AND THEY STILL DIDN’T BUILD THE FREAKING WALL, AND THE CONTINUED TO STEAL THE BEST AMERICAN JOBS AND GIVE THEM TO FOREIGNERS BY THE TENS OF THOUSANDS EVERY SINGLE YEAR WITH THE H1B visas.
Exactly. Right now, who cares whether Trump goes all the way? He is ALREADY doing this country a world of good. Every PC lie is having a searchlight find it and illuminate it. And this is registering to real Americans, even the apolitical or just plumb busy ones.
Americans CAN handle the truth. We are sick of lies.
So long as we are trying to find a messenger Trump does splendidly but when we begin to think of governing Trump is wholly disqualified by virtue of his character flaws, his temperament, his undisciplined speech, his biography, his Association with bankruptcies, his financial support of leftists, his pro-abortion position, his self dentification for years with Democrats, his ignorance of history, and, above all his offputting, galactic ego.
We are still in the message stage and at this point, I agree, Trump is rendering a great service to the cause of true conservatism. But do not be deceived, the man is not a conservative and he is not fit to lead the conservative cause. It is the most dangerous tendency of any political movement to fall in love with a Messiah. Every man has flaws and Trump is a walking repository of the ego problems whom we dare not trust with the fate of the nation.
It is so seductive to fall in love with a candidate but so dangerous.
“It is so seductive to fall in love with a candidate but so dangerous.”
We all fall in love with a particular candidate. You have your choice of 17 or more of them. I choose Trump, a highly astute businessman who is Main Street in attitude, not K Street. He may not be as “intellectual” as you may like, or not as “pure” or polished as you may like, but he’s a doer, not a talker like the politicians are. And most of all he’s a fighter, and we need that more than anything right now. Plus he’s beholden to no one.
What you list as vices, I consider virtues, right down to his undisciplined speech and giant ego. Almost all leadership quality people have big ego’s, it goes with the territory. I suspect you have a decent sized one yourself. Trump actually speaks very well, attended a military academy before going to Wharton School of Finance where he had good grades, and turned his father’s 6 million dollar inheritance into a 6 BILLION dollar or more real estate and media Empire, and he’s not embarrassed about being a rich Capitalist.
By the way, Rush Limbaugh is on his third marriage. Not everyone is perfect. Trump raised excellent quality children who all love him, unlike my hero Ronnie Reagan’s kids, 2 of whom turned out to be big lemons. I never loved Reagan the less for how his kids turned out. I don’t love Rush less for his third wife being the charm, and when I look at Trump’s happy family photos, that pleases me. Of late all we have chosen for Prez candidates are politicians who have lost. I’m going for the businessman this time. Each to their own.
Cruz is my ideal candidate. After reading this brilliant article it is quite clear that without Trump in this race there is likely no way Cruz could overcome Jeb's MSM fueled momentum after a likely victory in Florida.
The great insight presented throughout this article left me quite depressed -- it seems only a miracle will keep the evil GOPe from getting their candidate.
I say a miracle because I now have no doubt that most who entered the campaigned did so for one and only one reason -- to make sure Jeb defeats the Constitutional Conservatives.
The deceit of Rubio, Christie, Graham and other GOPe is disgusting. They have zero respect for Consitution and likely laugh at those who believe in limited government.
I pray that something great comes from the Cruz and Trump meeting on Wednesday.
Did you completely read the article? What do you think of the analysis of the GOPe strategy of guiding Jeb to victory in Florida and so on?
Your insight is always welcomed. Please read my post above this one.
Donald Trump cannot be nominated, if nominated he cannot be elected, if elected he cannot govern.
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Methinks you try a tad too hard to try and sound clever.
The writer of this article has overlooked one important part of the primary schedule.
Florida is on March 15.
Texas, with many more delegates, is on March 1.
“Donald Trump cannot be nominated, if nominated he cannot be elected, if elected he cannot govern.”
We’ll see. One of us will be wrong. I hope it’s you, lol.
great work especially considering most is a year old
Actually a good question Pally....
Ok
Let me be really clear and my apologies to the mod
As a SOUTHERNER as if I even needed to be further educated
The Republican Party as we know it is just 1970s moderate democrats
Hawkish with fiscal restraint comparatively
That’s it.
They fight only against their base and to stay reelectWed
They are traitors to their electorate....unabashedly
They obviously despise my region and have thrown us under the bus with no hesitation
Aside from Cruz Sessions Cotton and a few others they are no better than the opposition
They stand for SHIT.
Trump....faults and all....busts their asses up
That alone makes him worth a shot.....
If he won this.....the GOPe paradigm would be forever altered
Plus he effing fights back on the left..the establishment and the GD media
It may be he is not our best choice but our only choice
You saying that is a tipping point
If Lenhart does it too ill faint
You were mistaken trust me...lol....I like that retort btw
I may borrow it
Anyone new to this thread should see post 11
This is a very high fly ball many are watching to see if it goes foul
I have read the article carefully and I think there is much of merit in it. I think the article accurately diagnoses the current deplorable state of the Republican Party. When the author spins out intricate conspiracy theories and projects the motives of candidates like Graham so far into the future I lose confidence in his predictive abilities. The world simply does not function under so intricate a web spun by conspiratorial elitists. They would and do conspire but the very fact of the entrance into the debate by Donald Trump and his profound unsettling influence on the debate, which I favor on the merits, reveals how impossible it is to micromanage a two-year convoluted nomination and election strategy.
I agree that conservatives have been divided and conquered in the past series of nominations and we have an obligation to ourselves and to the country to prevent that from happening now. I have posted long and hard that we should favor Cruz and if he falters Scott Walker. I could be very content with either one as nominee. These men are conservatives, each has bucked the establishment at personal political risk. Scott Walker won his battle and got results, Ted Cruz did not but, of course, but Cruz was not in position as a chief executive to get results as was Scott Walker. I am not happy with Cruz's vote on trade and on the Iran deal but no candidate is perfect and I'm about trying to find the most electable, most conservative candidate.
As I have posted, the attraction of Donald Trump is that he has seized on a couple of salient issues and brilliantly punched through the clutter to make himself heard and, equally important, he is feeding red meat to a starving and ravens conservative audience. But we true conservatives must understand and even except that we are a subset of a subset and not the majority voice of the electorate. We might be, as Donald Trump says, a silent majority but the key word is "silent" and not the reflexive, default position of the electorate. So Donald Trump is expressing the right message on a subset of issues directed to a subset of a subset of the electorate. I have also posted long and hard that the way to gain the independence and the Reagan Democrats is not by retreating from conservative principles but by inspiring the country with conservative principles. The trick is not to make a bigger tent, that will take care of itself if we can introduce the people to come into it. Donald Trump does not have the range or the grasp of conservatism to be the man to do that.
I am nearly but not quite to the point where I am in despair of the Republican Party. If we cannot elect Cruz or Walker or if they are somehow unmasked as frauds, then I might be in a position to support Donald Trump on the theory that the wrong messenger is better than no message at all.
We are not quite there yet.
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