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Absent Lesser Charges Than Murder, Officer Michael Slager Will Go Free
ClashDaily.com ^ | 4/17/15 | Donald Joy

Posted on 04/17/2015 10:33:50 AM PDT by IChing

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To: IChing
did you happen to read the analysis?

You wrote it, didn't you....'fess up.

81 posted on 04/17/2015 1:58:45 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (It ain't a "hashtag"....it's a damn pound sign. ###)
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To: driftdiver
Serpentine! Serpentine!
82 posted on 04/17/2015 1:59:11 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: ErnBatavia

Duh


83 posted on 04/17/2015 2:04:16 PM PDT by IChing
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To: Boogieman

Here in the state of Washington, the people have less stringent standard for justifiable homicide than the police. At least on paper. And has been ruled as such in several cases over the last few years. (Guy shot in the back stealing a truck, kid shot in the back after breaking in and running away with some belt buckles, guy shot in the back as he was trying to knock down a door into the house (dad was outside, mom and daughter inside).


84 posted on 04/17/2015 2:06:26 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: IChing

Past results do not guarantee future results.

I’ll take that bet. Murder 1.

L


85 posted on 04/17/2015 2:11:37 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker

South Carolina does not have degrees of murder.


86 posted on 04/17/2015 2:20:34 PM PDT by IChing
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To: IChing

More importantly tell me why he planted evidence. Tell me why he mishandled evidence. Tell me why he needed days to get his story straight. Tell me why he lied on his report.


87 posted on 04/17/2015 2:27:55 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Boogieman

thats funny


88 posted on 04/17/2015 2:28:19 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Oh, you’ve seen his report, have you?

What, specifically, did he supposedly lie about, and how do you know he lied?

Cops are trained to retrieve any weapons dropped or displaced during an altercation so that bystanders can’t get their hands on them. It’s likely that when Slager saw that the cartridge was no longer in the taser, he simply dropped it because it was empty and not a threat. Then Slager appropriately continued to tend to Scott. He holstered the taser moments later.


89 posted on 04/17/2015 2:41:37 PM PDT by IChing
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To: driftdiver

That is that he cannot be forced to even make a report, and none has been released. He has the right to remain silent, in fact.

You were saying?


90 posted on 04/17/2015 2:43:07 PM PDT by IChing
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To: IChing
Do you think Slager will get a fair trial?

Don't know. One thing that caught my eye was the issue of overcharging. I don't know if this apples in SC but at the conclusion of the George Zimmerman trial we saw his attorney Don West freak out when the prosecution presented third degree murder based on child abuse as a lesser offense.

So, I wouldn't be surprised to see the prosecution do the same if they feel the evidence and the standard of reasonableness doesn't justify the murder charge.

91 posted on 04/17/2015 3:10:15 PM PDT by JPX2011
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To: JPX2011

Finally someone gets it.


92 posted on 04/17/2015 3:12:43 PM PDT by IChing
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To: JPX2011

...except SC doesn’t have degrees of murder.


93 posted on 04/17/2015 3:13:40 PM PDT by IChing
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To: IChing
...except SC doesn’t have degrees of murder.

Quite right. Just went and looked up the SC statutes:

SECTION 16-3-10. "Murder" defined: "Murder" is the killing of any person with malice aforethought, either express or implied.

SECTION 16-3-50. Manslaughter: A person convicted of manslaughter, or the unlawful killing of another without malice, express or implied, must be imprisoned not more than thirty years or less than two years.

So unless people believe that Slager sought to kill Scott, I can't see why they would charge him with murder. Manslaughter is the appropriate charge.

94 posted on 04/17/2015 3:33:09 PM PDT by JPX2011
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To: driftdiver

What if his report says he went back and retrieved the taser?


95 posted on 04/17/2015 4:13:14 PM PDT by Dusty Road (")
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To: IChing

I’ve wasted a lot of time watching the videos and listening to the news reports.

People do things for reasons.

I don’t understand why the cop shot the perp. as he was running away. They had words before he began running.

Additionally, some fellow was taping the event. (Why wasn’t he aiding is fellow man?)

Something isn’t being told here.

Even if the cop was a bigoted murderer, his behavior in the video, didn’t manifest that type of thinking.

What were the events leading up to the confrontation and justifying in the mind of the perp, ..for him to run away?


96 posted on 04/17/2015 4:23:06 PM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: IChing

“That is that he cannot be forced to even make a report,”

That is true.


97 posted on 04/17/2015 5:26:28 PM PDT by Dusty Road (")
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To: IChing

This is a comment from the thread below a post on TheConservativeTreehouse.com which featured this article:

disgustedwithjulison says:
April 17, 2015 at 5:11 pm
We also don’t know the following….there were two males in the car. Slager was scuffling (tussling) with one…but had no idea if he was going to be ambushed by the other (who wasn’t following their chase…but could have been and Slager would have been blindsided and possibly killed by the passenger). Slager shooting at a fleeing violent suspect while not knowing where the other suspect was due to the disorientation of wrestling suspect 1 also needs to be taken into account (Slager’s personal safety was in potential jeopardy due to the actions of Suspect 1). Suspect 1 was creating a situation where Slager had to make a quick and unfortunate decision to protect himself from being teamed up on on a remote back driveway.

I still have a lot of trouble with this shooting….but I also feel it is the American way to look at all the facts before passing judgement.

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/04/17/walter-scott-shooting-the-case-for-lesser-charges/comment-page-1/#comment-1385868


98 posted on 04/17/2015 5:31:15 PM PDT by IChing
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To: IChing

Not familiar with SC law, but a murder charge generally carries with it a number of degrees. In fact, some states don’t even use the term manslaughter.

I would need to know more about the statute he would be charged under, but your point is valid about overcharging cases.


99 posted on 04/17/2015 5:41:41 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: IChing

It’s a troubling case.

If the man had not been killed, it certainly seems that the officer had used excessive force for the situation, as neither he nor anyone else was clearly in mortal danger at the time by any action of the man in question.

In a sane environment, the officer would have waited for backup and then arrange a plan to safely apprehend the man at some point later.

It appears to me that the officer either acted out of anger or frustration, and he made a critical error that resulted in the mans death. So it’s more than excessive force regardless of any further evidence unless that evidence validates the decision to kill the man. These validations are generally pretty clearly stated in most jurisdictions if not all.

IMO, not privy to all of the evidence yet, but based on that video and what I have read, in my jurisdiction the charge would be manslaughter. In some jurisdictions it would be murder 2 or 3...


100 posted on 04/17/2015 5:57:02 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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