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Why S.C. Cop Michael Slager Will Not Be Convicted of Murder (Voluntary Manslaughter Instead)
ClashDaily.com ^ | 4/8/15 | Donald Joy

Posted on 04/08/2015 12:59:17 PM PDT by IChing

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To: FredZarguna

Tell you what — I called the Zimmerman case AND the Wilson case exactly correctly — if you wish, go ahead and make YOUR prediction on this one, and when it’s all said and done we’ll see who predicted accurately.


81 posted on 04/08/2015 4:22:45 PM PDT by IChing
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To: ansel12

Tell you what — I called the Zimmerman case AND the Wilson case exactly correctly — if you wish, go ahead and make YOUR prediction on this one, and when it’s all said and done we’ll see who predicted accurately.


82 posted on 04/08/2015 4:23:13 PM PDT by IChing
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To: IChing

LOL, who didn’t call the Zimmerman and Wilson case correctly, they were obvious from the beginning.

So is this one, he murdered the man.


83 posted on 04/08/2015 4:28:16 PM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: ansel12

Yeah, right, endless numbers of people, including many conservatives, said both Z and Wilson were going down due to the political situation, etc.


84 posted on 04/08/2015 4:38:46 PM PDT by IChing
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To: FredZarguna

Slager’s biggest problem MAY turn out to be his statements after the fact. If he’s found to have deliberately lied afterward by saying that Scott actually had the taser (not merely that he thought Scott had it), not realizing that the video was forthcoming, the jury will be that much more inclined to ignore the mitigating factors. It’s going to be interesting.


85 posted on 04/08/2015 5:23:26 PM PDT by IChing
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To: ansel12

Slager’s biggest problem MAY turn out to be his statements after the fact. If he’s found to have deliberately lied afterward by saying that Scott actually had the taser (not merely that he thought Scott had it), not realizing that the video was forthcoming, the jury will be that much more inclined to ignore the mitigating factors. It’s going to be interesting.


86 posted on 04/08/2015 5:23:49 PM PDT by IChing
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To: IChing
Not even close. Absent any other information, that scenario could just as well be a completely justified shooting. Let me take a wild guess, you have no idea why I say that, right?

I have a very good understanding why you say that. And it has nothing to do with the law.

87 posted on 04/08/2015 6:32:54 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: MortMan

May I ask why you believe that failure to obey police commands should be a death sentence?


It’s not. It just drastically increases the risk of death.

So does running from the police when you are asked to pull over in your car.

I’m no fan of the police, but my take is that you take your life into your own hands when you run from the police while they are yelling for you to stop.

But then, I’m an “old school tough love” sort of guy.


88 posted on 04/08/2015 6:59:08 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: raybbr

If true, you are deranged.


Opinions vary, but my opinion was pretty common until the boomers took over.


89 posted on 04/08/2015 6:59:49 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Mr. K

My position is from a strong principle I hold: Human beings are not machines. We are not perfect. We have a thing called Adrenalin. When someone has been through what that cop had been through, all bets were off. Chris Rock had it right in his funny video. “obey the law” and “DON’T RUN”.

The ONLY excuse for running when the cops are yelling for you to stop is that you are deaf.


90 posted on 04/08/2015 7:02:01 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: bobby.223

Here’s my problem: I’ve had it with our modern sissy lala culture. I am steeped in Louis L’Amour novels.

What would Chick Bowdrie do?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chick_Bowdrie

For the record, I don’t care if this perp was black or white. When you get tazed and still put up a fight and, when the cop has his gun trained on you and telling you to stop (and he’s pumped up with adrenalyn from the scuffle he had with YOU, don’t be surprised if you suddenly find yourself at the great white throne judgement.

Running from an armed cop yelling for you to stop is just STUPID. And you deserve whatever you get at that point.

I’m no fan of the cops and don’t trust them, but unless I’m armed and ready to shoot it out with the cop, when a cop with a gun yells for me to stop, I STOP. Any other action is taking my life into my own hands. My unarmed hands.


91 posted on 04/08/2015 7:06:58 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Talisker

Of course it has to do with the law, why do you say it doesn’t?


92 posted on 04/08/2015 7:07:19 PM PDT by IChing
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To: justlurking

Under what conditions?


You have outstanding warrants and you have just had a physical brawl with the cop and then you run. At that point a reasonable cop may consider you VERY dangerous to any citizen you come across and he should try to drop you at all costs if you refuse to obey his command to stop as you run away.

Yes, even if you are running away.

I’m really tired of us pussyfooting around with this kind of behavior. It’s why we have this kind of behavior.


93 posted on 04/08/2015 7:09:41 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: justlurking

I should point out that my list basically matches yours. I did not imply, but should have, that I didn’t mean literally anyone running from the police - like the guy running down the sidewalk, passing a cop, and the cop yells for him to stop.

This case was the type of case I was talking about. And your number 2 covers it.


94 posted on 04/08/2015 7:11:28 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Watch the video!

Nothing you have assumed is real.

The real question is was the event long enough for the charge to be first degree, rather than second.


Just watched the video. If I add in what is alleged to have happened before the actual video starts showing the two men, I feel even stronger than I did.

But to give the video context, we have to know what happened BEFORE the guy got up and ran. I’m sure the context will be offered in the courtroom.


95 posted on 04/08/2015 7:17:18 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Shimmer1

God save us from demons like you then.


Jeez. Lighten up. You need to know more than what little I offered in my post to make such a determination. You need to ask some qualifying questions as some others here have done.

Whenever I see a post on FR that wants me to react the way you reacted to my post my first thought is, did he literally post what he meant? Am I inferring something he didn’t mean?

Of course, once the answer to those and other questions are forthcoming, you may still have the same opinion. But at least it will be based on more than a single typed line on an internet chat. ;-)


96 posted on 04/08/2015 7:20:25 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: ansel12

I just want to shout at the runner, “Just frigging STOP, you moron. You are going to get yourself killed.”

And alas, he did.

Stupid is as stupid does.

Now, if they can prove in a court of law that the cop actually had threatened the man and there was no struggle between them, I will change my opionion.

But I know what Adrenalin can do to a man’s thought process - both the cops and the perp. I cut them both some slack. And as we are learning, the outcome can be bad for both of them.


97 posted on 04/08/2015 7:24:28 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: IChing

” I now also believe Slager’s defense will include him insisting that he mistakenly believed Scott had the taser in his hands when he took off.”

Based on the video I thought the same thing, the cop didn’t see it land at his feet and behind him. HOWEVER, once he cuffs the deceased guy he does not look around on the ground near the body for the taser in the grass or scratches his head wondering where the heck the thing went. He cuffs the guy and gets up quickly, turns and runs back to where the taser was. He knew it was back there.

And in Washington State one can shoot a fleeing felon (if the guy had assaulted the cop during the arrest). But the dropping of the taser and the deceit by the cop - I would give him 20 years for that, even if it is ruled to be a justifiable homicide.


98 posted on 04/08/2015 7:26:37 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: cuban leaf

Gee, I’m sorry, I didn’t know you might be lying.


99 posted on 04/08/2015 7:29:20 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (Never in history has any government ever wanted its people to be defenseless for any good reason.)
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To: joe fonebone

Exactly. Threatening moves made include pointing a taser, violating their trained force continuum and attempting to use it on person for submission like a dog. Never mind tasers can kill. Apparently, the gang in blue deems it an acceptable risk for their “less than lethal” tool to possibly kill someone. This is against the law and liability. Nope, tasers pointing also means go to guns and eliminate a threat.


100 posted on 04/08/2015 7:29:25 PM PDT by TheBigJ
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