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Why S.C. Cop Michael Slager Will Not Be Convicted of Murder (Voluntary Manslaughter Instead)
ClashDaily.com ^ | 4/8/15 | Donald Joy

Posted on 04/08/2015 12:59:17 PM PDT by IChing

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After writing this late last night, I now also believe Slager's defense will include him insisting that he mistakenly believed Scott had the taser in his hands when he took off.

Incidentally, I know the location where this happened intimately; it’s mere yards from the perimeter of Charleston Air Force Base. I was stationed there for 4 years, from 1982-86, and would pass this very intersection on my way to and from my girlfriend’s house and visiting the commercial strip on Rivers Avenue. Even used to buy gas at that corner.

Another interesting coincidence is that both Scott and Slager served in the Coast Guard.

1 posted on 04/08/2015 12:59:17 PM PDT by IChing
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To: IChing

I beleive you only get one shot with that type of taser, once it’s been deployed, it’s just a hunk of plastic. If that is true, then the officer would have known that.


2 posted on 04/08/2015 1:02:40 PM PDT by Fido969
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To: IChing

If a taser doesn’t take you down it generally means you are flying high on PCP’s or something.


3 posted on 04/08/2015 1:03:05 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Fido969

Some tasers have multiple charges ready to go, but I don’t know what sort of taser this was. Someone on another thread said even with an expended cartridge type unit a lesser shock can still be delivered.


4 posted on 04/08/2015 1:04:30 PM PDT by IChing
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Or it means the taser didn’t make good contact with your skin.


5 posted on 04/08/2015 1:05:44 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: IChing

I have not seen the video no read any other stories about this case. However, based on what I read in your post, if I was on the jury I’d acquit of all charges.

Sometimes watching a police video is like watching sausage being made: It’s ugly to watch, but you like the results.

Of course, I also believe that police should be allowed to shoot at people running away that refuse to stop.


6 posted on 04/08/2015 1:08:57 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: IChing

No jury in this country is going to believe that your life is in immediate danger (esp a police officer holding a gun) when the perp is running away in the other direction unarmed!


7 posted on 04/08/2015 1:10:32 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: IChing

You present some good arguments for the defense, but I full well believe, in light of the LIV reaction to Furgeson and NY, that the jury will bow to public pressure and this officer will fry.


8 posted on 04/08/2015 1:12:36 PM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: cuban leaf
Of course, I also believe that police should be allowed to shoot at people running away that refuse to stop.

May I ask why you believe that failure to obey police commands should be a death sentence?

9 posted on 04/08/2015 1:16:49 PM PDT by MortMan (All those in favor of gun control raise both hands!)
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To: cuban leaf
Of course, I also believe that police should be allowed to shoot at people running away that refuse to stop.

If true, you are deranged.

10 posted on 04/08/2015 1:16:52 PM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a deatha panel.)
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To: IChing

Well thought-out, well-written. Thanks for the post.


11 posted on 04/08/2015 1:20:01 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: IChing

And THAT’s how you stir up rioting~!


12 posted on 04/08/2015 1:21:47 PM PDT by Mr. K (I)
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To: cuban leaf

You need to see the video. You will change your mind

The guy is 35 feet away and running away- and the officer shoots 8 times - pausing once after 6 then two more when he is clearly hit


13 posted on 04/08/2015 1:23:07 PM PDT by Mr. K (I)
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To: raybbr; cuban leaf

‘leaf is just foolin’ Ray......NOBODY is that damn stupid.


14 posted on 04/08/2015 1:24:40 PM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a great life!)
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To: cuban leaf; MortMan; raybbr
Of course, I also believe that police should be allowed to shoot at people running away that refuse to stop.

Under what conditions?

The law in your state may vary. But in mine (Texas), deadly force can be used during arrest:

(1) the actor reasonably believes the conduct for which arrest is authorized included the use or attempted use of deadly force; or
(2) the actor reasonably believes there is a substantial risk that the person to be arrested will cause death or serious bodily injury to the actor or another if the arrest is delayed.

There are some other qualifiers -- you can read it if you like.

My point is: there's no carte blanche under the law in my state to use deadly force in an arrest.

15 posted on 04/08/2015 1:27:02 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: IChing
 
 
Nonsense.
 
They were no longer grappling mano a mano - the perp had disengaged. All was needed at that point was for Slager to contact backup to vector in, swarm the guy take him into custody. I have seen situations worse than this first hand where there were no shootings and the perp was taken alive and straight to jail without a stop at the hospital. This cop is beyond toast - and you'd think after the events of the past year or so officers would be alert to the fact they are under a microscope and adversarial groups are looking for screw ups they could use to their advantage. This clown has handed the militant left a present on a platter, giving their hostile agenda an air of legitimacy.
 
 

16 posted on 04/08/2015 1:27:06 PM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: IChing

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This is just some cops wishful thinking.

There is no manslaughter element to any of this.

The cop knew that his sidearm would be deadly if fired at the victim’s upper torso, thus he deliberately took deadly action for a decidedly non deadly threat.

This is a very clear second degree murder case.
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17 posted on 04/08/2015 1:28:22 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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Of course, I also believe that police should be allowed to shoot at people running away that refuse to stop.

Unimaginable. Not deranged, however... unfortunately it is part and parcel of where we're headed.

I hope he missed the tag.
18 posted on 04/08/2015 1:29:00 PM PDT by Robert Teesdale (III% | 4GW)
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To: cuban leaf

Watch the video!

Nothing you have assumed is real.

The real question is was the event long enough for the charge to be first degree, rather than second.
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19 posted on 04/08/2015 1:34:14 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: IChing

I don’t care if Scott is violent or not. We don’t shoot people eight times in the back as they run away in America. You can say he was a child raping mother raping Nazi. But we still don’t shoot them eight times in the back while running away. This cop should go to jail and NEVER COME OUT. His authority complex got way out of control.


20 posted on 04/08/2015 1:35:02 PM PDT by poinq
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