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28 Reasons I’m DONE Talking To Most Of My Conservative Friends And Family Members
Liberal America - Saving the USA since 1776 ^ | February 11, 2015 | Tiffany Willis, founder and editor-in-chief

Posted on 02/11/2015 8:40:02 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: GraceG

10. She is a liar regarding her health insurance.

If she claims health insurance is now affordable for individually insured people, as she claims to be since she lost her employee paid plan, she is LYING.

I am one who responsibly paid my affordable premiums until this Unaffordable Care Act became law, and now health insurance is beyond my budget. SHE IS A LIAR.

She is a left wing progressive loon.


141 posted on 02/12/2015 3:01:06 AM PST by Bluebird Singing
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To: PROCON

In her signoff, she indicates that even her pastor is one of those conservatives (with whom she disagrees) in her life.


142 posted on 02/12/2015 3:04:21 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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To: a fool in paradise
You are lazy and you refuse to read.

Heh, I read more than anything else I do. Granted, a good chunk of that is forced due to me (and others) trying to comply with this freakin' oppressive, heavy handed gov't and the repercussions of it....

143 posted on 02/12/2015 3:05:27 AM PST by Paul R.
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To: Bluebird Singing

Does yours (insurance) actually cover anything? Post ACA, mine is essentially worthless (at $960 a month premium.)


144 posted on 02/12/2015 3:09:00 AM PST by Paul R.
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To: Paul R.

She calls conservatives lazy and says they refuse to read.

Cue the Democrat excuse about not reading the Obamacare bill before voting on it.


145 posted on 02/12/2015 3:09:35 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Or protesting at the funerals of gay people. And yeah, I know that is Westboro Baptist Church and not you, but if you refuse to speak out against them, then you’re a part of the problem.

Tiffany obviously has not met any FReepers.

146 posted on 02/12/2015 3:11:55 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Je suis Charlie, you miserable Islamist throwbacks!)
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To: demshateGod

I thought - murder is wrong - one only needs to say it ONCE - so if the Bible says it 6 times in her opinion - then it went beyond the ONE time it needed to be said five more times...

She’s one of those, “If I pen it - then it’s true!” people....much like Obama....


147 posted on 02/12/2015 3:13:44 AM PST by BCW (ARMIS EXPOSCERE PACEM)
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To: clintonh8r
iffany (*spit*) is a cupid stunt. Get out of the south, Tiff. You don’t belong here.

Tiffany; you need to get away from those people in Texas. May I suggest Red Hampshire? You would be surrounded by your fellow Communists, and you would be too busy shoveling snow to annoy conservatives on the net with your stupefying bullsh*t.

148 posted on 02/12/2015 3:14:48 AM PST by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I wouldn't take issue with all 28 reasons Miss Willis objects to Conservatives. However, I will take this one:

“Yet the Bible only mentions homosexuality six times. Six. Times. 6. This many:"

The same-sex marriage fight is indeed a serious issue and can best be fought in the states with the support of the Church. The Obama Regime is poised to de-normalize heterosexual monogamy in order to normalize same sex marriage. We now know that Obama has been working to these ends for a long time.

The battle needs to be waged in the states through court action, since the initiative process has been nullified by court action. What needs to be established is the fraudulent nature of "marriage equality" as they are now calling it. The Bible touches on it in ten places:

Genesis 2:18, 22, 23:

18 And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. 22 And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. 23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

If God thought a man was a better mate for Adam, he would have made another man.

Genesis 19:1-9:

1 And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground; 2 And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant’s house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways. And they said, Nay; but we will abide in the street all night. 3 And he pressed upon them greatly; and they turned in unto him, and entered into his house; and he made them a feast, and did bake unleavened bread, and they did eat. 4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter: 5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them. 6 And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, 7 And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly. 8 Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof. 9 And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door.

These passages reveal the wickedness of Homosexual rape as well as the practice of homosexuality.

Leviticus 18:22:

22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Leviticus 20:13:

13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Deuteronomy 23:17-18:

17 There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel. 18 Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a dog, into the house of the Lord thy God for any vow: for even both these are abomination unto the Lord thy God.

Deuteronomy 22:5:

5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God.

Romans 1:26-27:

26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural , 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.

I Corinthians 6:9-11:

9 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

I Timothy 1:8-10:

8 We know that the law is good if one uses it properly. 9 We also know that law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious; for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, 10 for adulterers and perverts, for slave traders and liars and perjurers--and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine.

2 Peter 2:6-10:

6 If he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly; 7 and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men 8 (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)-- 9 if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment. 10 This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;

On the perversion of the family issue, we need to formulate a clear message that defends monogamous heterosexual marriage. We have a huge electorate who does not know the implications of normalizing homosexual relationships and has been dumbed down by the Hollywood media. You see them clapping on shows that promote homosexuality and same sex marriage. Most American have no clue what the battle is about. This is because "marriage equality" has been redefined as a civil rights issue on the level of racial equality. The media indoctrination for "marriage equality" has been irresponsible and non-stop as it relives the intrigue of a civil rights struggle that was played out with race. How we stop the propaganda campaign of redefinition will be a challenge.

Basically, same-sex marriage violates the natural parent-child bond in every family, and the right of the family to protection by society and the state. It discards the fundamental understanding that the family, based upon the heterosexual marriage, is the very foundation of society. Same sex-marriage will de-naturalize the family by rendering in their entirety familial relationships as ever changing expressions of law. Such a changing set of laws will crush the monogamous heterosexual marriage with instability. It will be like forcing one to drive though an intersection without traffic lights. That universal understanding for thousands of years, that the family is a small society (a sovereign state) with unique rights and responsibilities independent of the state will end. Instead, the family will become mere policy relationships, defined and imposed by arbitrary resolutions of the state. The family (this society) founded more immediately in nature--the proles (procreation or fruitfulness)--will no longer have the distinction of sexual difference, with its distinctive quality of generative power. It is the civil right of the family to continue as the natural and fundamental group unit of society. With a change in the definition of marriage, the family will have no direct connection to nature. This leaves the parent-child relation open to increasing intervention by the state. And with the possibility of the state being influenced by foreign forces, the definition of the family could be expanded to include such barbarous practices as marriage to children and polygamy.

With the definition of marriage redefined, the state with its new found power, will undermine further the sovereign nature of the family; and the sphere of the church or religious community as well—the two spheres where divine and human rights, independent of the state, are located. This will come as an all out assault on hetero-sexism, or anything that seems to privilege the male-female binary or the nuclear family. It will enable the state to indoctrinate children and deprive parents of the power to intervene. The individual--men, women and children--will be reduced to be subjects of the state with no divine rights. We must understand the serious nature of this fight. There will be no peace to be had by capitulation.

This fight must be be vigorously taken up by Christians who can boldly declare that marriage is a gift—something we receive with creation, not something we invent—and that only what is capable of being a marriage act is natural sex. I believe that this issue can be fought on the moral level as it presents itself to the sovereignty of the family. Then it can be perceived as a real human rights issue. When the real issue of human rights, as it pertains to nature's law as ordained by God, then the real human rights case can be made. The human right of the monogamous heterosexual marriage should supersede the false case made for human equality as promoted by the "marriage equality" deceivers.

149 posted on 02/12/2015 3:19:01 AM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: Bob

“She’s certainly a good proponent for her “voluntary simplicity” thing. Rarely in my entire life have I ever read such simple-minded garbage.”

By the numbers

nearly 3,200 words
avg # of sentences per paragraph is 2.5
Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level 6.5

She knows her audience.


150 posted on 02/12/2015 3:19:39 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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To: ViLaLuz

I could visualize her living as a Dallas suburbanite.


151 posted on 02/12/2015 3:21:11 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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To: Paul R.

No. It is worthless. It takes my money and offers me nothing. Redistribution of income.

At $508 per month (now a bronze plan?), the deductible is so high that if I were to become ill enough to make use of my insurance, I would not be able to work and no longer pay my premiums. So essentially, it is worthless. I will be penalized. This is not America.

Anything close to my previous plan, which had inched its way to around 330/month, would now cost me $806 per month for 2014, and still not close to the original plan. To top that, the premium would be increasing in 2015. This plan was for ME ONLY! I am 60 years old, and have always been very healthy.


152 posted on 02/12/2015 3:26:04 AM PST by Bluebird Singing
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To: tumblindice
And, “As pretty as she is, some cowboy somewhere is sick and tired of putting up with her bulls***”.

Well she is a single mother at 47.

153 posted on 02/12/2015 3:27:02 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Tiffany...and we know that you are so self-absorbed that you will follow the link that brings you to this thread mention of your name on FR...(you may actually learn something, also).

You have serious mental health issues and only Jesus can/will set you free.

154 posted on 02/12/2015 3:29:26 AM PST by Prov1322 (Enjoy my wife's incredible artwork at www.watercolorARTwork.com! (This space no longer for rent))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So, she doesn’t want to discuss politics with conservatives any more.

Sounds like a capitulation to me.

I have liberal friends, and all they wanted to discuss was politics there for a while. Now that liberalism is put into law, and failing on every front, as we conservatives predicted, they don’t want to talk politics any more.

I love getting into political discussions with them now. They can’t win the argument on any front.

I take great comfort in this person’s screed. We’re winning the argument, so she doesn’t want to talk about it anymore.


155 posted on 02/12/2015 3:34:46 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: Mad Dawgg

Moses (the ‘law giver’) was not a founding father of this country, but the 10 Commandments were at least one time recognized as coming from a tradition of law.

Without exploring the textbook controversy, I have not context of the reference... only have her rant to go by.

I know I’ve seen greater over-reach in Common Core course materials.

Heck, the speaches of Barack Obama “I exist because someone marched at Selma!” are full of false history.


156 posted on 02/12/2015 3:37:42 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tiffany probably comes down with a case of the vapors every time she hears Mrs. Cleaver refer to God on the telly...


157 posted on 02/12/2015 3:41:39 AM PST by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.com)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Oklahoma appears to be the only place where very few stops are along the interstate due to this reason.

Too many of them 'homasexuals?

158 posted on 02/12/2015 3:45:18 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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To: bonfire

Dallas/Ft.Worth area. I pegged it.


159 posted on 02/12/2015 3:46:19 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I’ll admit that I’m disappointed and disturbed to see intelligent and/or educated people who are willfully ignorant.

And that's exactly why I hate talking with lefties. Their arrogance is overwhelming. Disagree with them and all of a sudden you are "willfully ignorant."

160 posted on 02/12/2015 3:47:58 AM PST by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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